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dcollin
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 Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: clutch problems (page 2) |
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okay well first of all here is my 64 notch that i got yesterday..
I dont have a picture of it but there are many wires hanging just underneath the pushbutton's on the dash, to the left of the steering wheel. They are all tangled and mix matched. its a mess... but the headlights, the gauge lights and the gas gauge are all not working.. i will post a picture of it tomorrow but does anyone have any suggestions of what it could be and what i could do to fix it[/img]
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burgandysquare
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Welcome to the Type 3 world! There is a wiring diagram in the technical section that might be of use to you.
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notchboy
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| burgandysquare wrote: |
| Welcome to the Type 3 world! There is a wiring diagram in the technical section that might be of use to you. |
Get this, pull the driver seat out, put a nice comfy pillow-blanket on the floor, lay on your back so to get a good look under the dash, look over the wiring diagram thats easy to read and follow even JMSkater can do it  Have fun finding whats missing and conectining the dots.
This is truly a case of the dreading is worse than the doing. Good luck.
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notchback
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This is truly a case of the dreading is worse than the doing. Good luck. |
That was me several years ago. This is what I had:
It was a 12 hole fuse box from a later car. Things were plugged randomly onto it. I went down to Kinko's, pulled up these three items:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/type3_1500S_64.jpg
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/type3_1500S_64_fuses.jpg
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/type3_1500S_64_key.jpg
printed them out in color and laminated them. Then I did as Jason suggested and lay down in my car. It took me about 4 hours of tracing and running wires and I got everything hooked up. I feared the job for months and didn't do anything. I tried to get a couple different local guys to do it for me. I'm glad they refused. It's not as hard as it looks at first.
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dcollin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: |
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That looks almost identicle to my situation, thanks for the info.. Now I just gotta get myself to do it |
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dcollin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Just got my 64 notch yesterday. got some electrical prob |
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I didnt want to start another thread but i am wondering what these wheels and tires are worth, they are 4 lug sprint stars on continental 195's. any input will help. thanks alot |
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notchback
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: Just got my 64 notch yesterday. got some electrical prob |
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I didnt want to start another thread but i am wondering what these wheels and tires are worth, they are 4 lug sprint stars on continental 195's. any input will help. thanks alot |
If they are original steel sprints in very good shape (can't tell for sure from the picture) I'd guess $400-$500 for the set on a good day. $300 will probably get them sold quickly. I had mine up for $500 and got a few nibbles, and lots of lowball offers. I've since decided to run them on my square.
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dcollin
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| what about wheels and tires together? |
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Mobiltune
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wiring pic
remove the battery! (you will want to clean that area and paint)
and you want the wiring to be dead(fried wiring sucks)
drop the fuse "box"
remove the pushbutton box
study the above wiring pic
trace wiring as needed
these photos I took, while working on daves 62 notchback
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Mobiltune
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you are right, all the fuses should be 8 amper/amps, white in color.(1962-3)
I will repair that, once dave gets the notch back, from jimmy,
getting paint...
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dcollin
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| well i recently went in to try and tackle this job.... i found that there were many wires which had been cut short. random ends sticking out different places. ALL of the wires coming from the push buttom terminals had been cut... and there are missing fuses. Im thinking at this point it might be easier to just buy a complete wiring harness and start over. What do you guys think? would it be easier to try and fix what i have or go for a new harness. any help is appreciated thanks.. |
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volkoman
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| i thought about starting with a new harness and just tried connecting my push button box the wires were cut as well, took me a while but everything worked out. Of course I had alot of questions and thank god for The Samba |
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dcollin
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| okay so i bought a bunch of new connectors, fuses, wiring etc. i followed the diagram and just tried starting with hooking up the headlights, front parking lights, and tail lights. I got the tail lights to work and front parking lights, but the headlights will still not work. what should i be checking next?, i replaced the front headlights also... |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| burgandysquare wrote: |
| Welcome to the Type 3 world! There is a wiring diagram in the technical section that might be of use to you. |
Get this, pull the driver seat out, put a nice comfy pillow-blanket on the floor, lay on your back so to get a good look under the dash, look over the wiring diagram thats easy to read and follow even JMSkater can do it Have fun finding whats missing and conectining the dots.
This is truly a case of the dreading is worse than the doing. Good luck. |
I had it a lot easier than neil 
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notchboy
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| dcollin wrote: |
| okay so i bought a bunch of new connectors, fuses, wiring etc. i followed the diagram and just tried starting with hooking up the headlights, front parking lights, and tail lights. I got the tail lights to work and front parking lights, but the headlights will still not work. what should i be checking next?, i replaced the front headlights also... |
Follow all the wires. Make sure they are connected. The headlights have a brown wire that is ground and is grounded in the front trunk off the loom. Make sure they are screwed down. After that make sure the switch works and you have power.
The only bad thing about all this is that there may be a gremlin hiding somewhere-you know the one that got the guy before you to hack things up for some reason. Be prepaired to find it and squish it.
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dcollin
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| well i got the headlights all hooked up and somehow got them to work but only by pushing in the high beam button on the dash, the low beam one only turns on the parking lights, im thinking this is due to the headlight relay... on the wiring diagram it has 6 pins and on mine it only has 5. in the diagram it lists 30, F,S, J, 56, 56a. the one that i have has 30, S, 56, 56b and 56a.... so does anybody have any helpful information? any help is appreciated. |
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notchboy
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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The relay has corosion in its contacts. Flip from hight to loww a bunch to see if it clears. If not youll have to open the relay and clean it.
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notchback
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The two buttons on the dash would be working fine if working as you explained. The "low beam" button is really the button for the parking lights. It is not supposed to turn on the headlights. The one you call the "high beam" button is the actual headlight switch. Your high-beam switch is on the back side of the turn signal lever. Just turn the headlights on and tap the backside of the lever and it changes from high to low. If you don't have an owners manual, check out the one on-line here.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/aug63_1500s.php
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dcollin
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Okay thank you I was thinking that could be a possibility but wasn't sure, what would explain one of my lights being on high beam and one low |
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