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billybeamer
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 Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject: replace floor pan |
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| i need to replace the floor pan in my 71 ghia coupe would it be best to take the body off the chassie to do it right |
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swhitcomb
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It is possible to do it without removing the body. However much easier if you do. Where in va are you? Perhaps i can help.
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70 140
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:34 am Post subject: |
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There are benefits and drawbacks to doing it either way.
With the body on you have to work around the car removing the old pans and fitting the new. However, once you get the old pans removed and the new pans fitted, it is almost easier to install the pans with the body on as you can bolt the heater channel side in place. |
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hpw
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moon-dawg
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72Ghia
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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It took me about 10 hours from start to finish with the pan off.
Most time consuming was getting dimmensions of bolt holes & getting the old remaining pan off the lip of the frame. Lots of chiseling ,grinding &
removing bits of metal from the spot welds. You want to grind them down flush for a good fit. One benefit of pan on would probably be lining up the body bolts you can trim & test fit. I would remove or protect as much of the interior as possible if you are welding in new pans.
Its not rocket science , but the vidoes do point out some good tips which make it a worth while investment before doing the work. Then you can always sell it when you are done.
With body on there are some small areas in the back of the pans you may not be able to cut out.
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chewy
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: pan replacement |
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| I would recommend -"bug me video", money well spent. I have repaced '70 pan. Build the saw horses so you can jack up body, and roll chasis out. It is staight forward, if you have sawzall, grinder and mig welder,(and you can use them!) DO IT! |
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billybeamer
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: pan repair |
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| i live in nathalie va close to lynchburg va and danville va i basically dont know shit about volkswagons so i would like to pay someone to fix floor pans for me at a good price i can deliver the car but i do want it done right the first time also show pics what you have done please [email protected] |
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NOVA Airhead
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The closest I know to you is Northside Automotive in Madison:
http://northsiderestorations.com/
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ddwbeagles
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| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: Good comes at a cost |
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If you use Grant's shop "Northside Automotive, they do outstanding work but you better take out a 2nd mortgage. It will NOT come cheap. Just had some work done on my car there. Saw some restorations they had going on.... impressive work for sure. So I'll give this advice and I'm not bad mouthing them, if you get something done, get a quote for the specific job(s), do not pay by the hour.
Or option B, go to the search mode under classifieds, select "services", put in your zip code and the distance you're willing to travel to take it to get worked on. You'll see many shops in MD, PA and NC. Two guys down in NC actually give quotes in their add for both pan on and pan off and it's by far the cheapest I've ever seen.
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NOVA Airhead
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| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Good comes at a cost |
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| ddwbeagles wrote: |
If you use Grant's shop "Northside Automotive, they do outstanding work but you better take out a 2nd mortgage. It will NOT come cheap. Just had some work done on my car there. Saw some restorations they had going on.... impressive work for sure. So I'll give this advice and I'm not bad mouthing them, if you get something done, get a quote for the specific job(s), do not pay by the hour.
Or option B, go to the search mode under classifieds, select "services", put in your zip code and the distance you're willing to travel to take it to get worked on. You'll see many shops in MD, PA and NC. Two guys down in NC actually give quotes in their add for both pan on and pan off and it's by far the cheapest I've ever seen. |
I would agree he is not inexpensive but his prices are reasonable for the quality of the work...plus he is a nice guy and a true VW enthusiast.
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ruschejj72
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i'm doing the same thing on a '72. I just finished the front suspension rebuild. Now the pans, both of them.
I have the bug me videos and it does take the intimidation out of it but getting the bolt holes right and the width right does worry me a bit.
I also am stressed about the seat rails.
And another thing, seam sealer and is POR 15 really the best thing to use? I have to learn to use an air sprayer too! Makes us better people, right?
I could not begin to imagine doing this with body on. There are only 13 steps to removing the body. As you see in my avatar, I do have some tools handy to make it easier though. Heh, heh. |
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slafa
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| ruschejj72 wrote: |
And another thing, seam sealer and is POR 15 really the best thing to use? I have to learn to use an air sprayer too! Makes us better people, right?
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I am told on the Volksrod site that Master Series is better and cheaper than POR 15....  I used POR 15 on my car and it seems bomb proof but they say over there that if your POR see's UV rays it will deteriorate and that it sticks great to rust but to raw steel it will start pealing off....
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c21darrel
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| I used MasterSeries, came out great. Used only small rollers and foam brushes...no need to spray. |
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NOVA Airhead
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You should read through this link. While its long, its very informative.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1...mp;start=0
I have never used POR-15 but have used Eastwood's Rust Encapsulator. I was happy with the results.
After reading the link and seeing how well Rustoleum did, I have been using it in certain places on my car. It has held up well and is much cheaper than some of the other products.
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