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swanlakers Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:46 pm Post subject: Maico disk brakes |
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I have a set of Maico disk brakes that have ALUMINUM roters, not steel. I haven't been able to find out anything about this version of maico's. The five pointed rings look just like the steel ones, only they have casting marks on the edge. I am afraid to use them, I think they would be bad news on a long down hill. Anyone know anything? _________________ https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/56ghia/cover.jpg |
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'd never seen aluminum rotors and certainly would not use them. _________________ Glenn
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Bashr52 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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The concept is there, Aluminum tends to radiate heat, not hold it like steel, which is why engine blocks are made outta it. It would have to be some seriously hardened aluminum to use for rotors though! Sounds scary to me too. |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have had them on my '59 for nearly 20 years with no problems.
They were also on the VW's in the Mobil Gas Trials in Australia.
There were the steel sets also. I don't know why, but in Australia, we got the alloy sets, and in the USA the steel sets are more common.
Ate also made sets for 356's
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Mr. Okrasa Original Old Speed
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: Maico Brakes / German Manufacture |
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Maico brakes were made in Germany SPECIFICALLY for VW's, Porsche 356 and Peugeot cars. Im sure they have done all the R&D and would offer a product that was not going to endanger peoples lives. Porsche was using their "annular" brake system that was similar to Maico. Porsche also use 60mm wide brakes on their race cars for increased braking power.
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swanlakers Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Just to be clear, its the part that the calipers grab thats aluminum, not the part that contains the wheel bearing. Even the Porsche drums are lined with steel. Has anyone ever heard of the part that the caliper or shoe touches being aluminum? _________________ https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/56ghia/cover.jpg |
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Mr. Okrasa Original Old Speed
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: Maico Brakes |
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The caliper is mounted on the spindle as it should be for holding strength. The caliper "grips" the steel ring as it passes through the pads. The hub is made from high quality aircraft forged aluminum and has the wheel bearings and supports the weight of the car. The steel ring is bolted to the hub and goes along for the ride until the brake is applied......then it grips the steel ring and slows the car down. Simple technology! Cheers! Mr. Okrasa |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sure they are Maico?
What does the caliper mount to?
FYI, this is what Maico pads look like.
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swanlakers Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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pretty sure.
There is a mounting bracket not shown in the picture.
Perhaps I wil;l mount them on my 62 convert. The would be pretty cool with a Judson supercharger. _________________ https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/56ghia/cover.jpg |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a catalog pic of the other version. These were sold by Poly Pad Products in the USA, I think Empi sold them also....not sure..
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IN2VWS Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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No disrespect, but they do not look like Maico brakes.
The Vesrah name you mentioned, are used on japanese motorcycles, and is a japanese company.
The slots on your brakes look way different than any of the Maicos pictured in this thread.
This is what Maico calipers look like:
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Bruce Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: |
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If the actual disc is aluminum, it is not original. Someone replaced the steel/iron disc with aluminum.
Notice the inch bolts too? Maiko would never use such a screw. _________________
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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How on earth do you find replacement rotors for these? are they available? _________________ Yeah I like Herbie AND New Beetles. Got a problem with it? Tough.
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Herbie3Rivers wrote: |
How on earth do you find replacement rotors for these? are they available? |
The rotors should be easy to get made up. Laser cut maybe.
They are just a flat ground piece of steel. The pads are more difficult to make or buy. _________________ ( ⫏ ⫐ )
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Richard Roth Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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swanlakers wrote: |
here is apicture of the
maico's with aluminum rotors:
I bought these from the late Dave Mayes a few years back.
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I remember when David bought them.
The seller said that he didn't have the original calipers and was trying to adapt the ones pictured.
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Simon uk Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:27 am Post subject: |
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maico's are so cool looking, if you have alluminium rotors you could polish them up before installing them!
I would have thought that the caliper parts would be relatively straight forward to find - I always figured they were very similar or the same to the versions used on maico motorbikes?
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IN2VWS Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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I found another set of Maicos recently. These are the steel version, but they are different than all the other steel versions I have seen. These have studs and not the holes for the wheel bolts.
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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I just cleaned up the rusty/dirty Maico shown in the previous pic. It has a goldish coating on it, that doesn't come off easily. I wonder if its the same coating that the 36hp engine cases had. Here is the after pic.
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