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runslikeapenguin
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if everything else on your car is stock, your arms arent boxed, run the white KYB's. they are a great starter shock. cheap, easy to install, decent performance and longevity. you will eventually want to change them out but by that time you will probably be ready for coil overs. 
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dustymojave
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With all else being stock...KYB Gas-A-Just. The white ones...NOT the GR2 silver ones.
Next step up would be Fox or King or Bilstein Class 11 shocks. I'd recommend F-O-A shocks for comparable quality at lower prices, But I don't think they have shocks yet to fit in stock locations.
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dustymojave
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| ... but by that time you will probably be ready for coil overs. |
Yeah!!! Empi coilovers!!!! Cool!!!
LMAO
Had to tweak your nose on that one since you left yourself so wide open RLAP.
I know he meant Fox/King/etc...and HATES the Empis which deserve the hate...they're JUNK!
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runslikeapenguin
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| runslikeapenguin wrote: |
| ... but by that time you will probably be ready for coil overs. |
Yeah!!! Empi coilovers!!!! Cool!!!
LMAO
Had to tweak your nose on that one since you left yourself so wide open RLAP.
I know he meant Fox/King/etc...and HATES the Empis which deserve the hate...they're JUNK! |
its one of my many personal missions to rid the world of those things. i need to contact empi one of these days and make my case 
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preruntn
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What about the Empi beam adjusters. Are those crap to?
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runslikeapenguin
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What about the Empi beam adjusters. Are those crap to?
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the sway away adjuster type they have is ok, if they worry you just keep the main pieces and replace all of the hardware.
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smokey the bear
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| empi sucks ok got that. so i was thinking that if i'm going to build this baja, i want to build it right and not have to come back to redo anything. like just doing enough for suspension and haveing to come back. so than are the offroad trailing arms worth getting likehttp://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1451/AC530012-E/ . than i have seen kits that you have the punched out steel and you weld it over the stock arms. than i have seen plates that get rid of the torrion bars, and you just put some fox or kings instead. how much travel should i have for the rear? So with the rear taken care of what do i do up there for suspension? i have the 5 peice baja kit so what kind of limits does that put on my bug? And also could i build my own taller shock towers? i'm just really wondering because i have seen such cool bugs but the shocks they use the the fox and kings are pretty spendy so what is a good site to by those at.? oh and what kind of travel should i have in the front? is it more important to have a greater amount of travel in the front or rear? |
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runslikeapenguin
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| empi sucks ok got that. so i was thinking that if i'm going to build this baja, i want to build it right and not have to come back to redo anything. like just doing enough for suspension and haveing to come back. so than are the offroad trailing arms worth getting likehttp://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1451/AC530012-E/ . than i have seen kits that you have the punched out steel and you weld it over the stock arms. than i have seen plates that get rid of the torrion bars, and you just put some fox or kings instead. how much travel should i have for the rear? So with the rear taken care of what do i do up there for suspension? i have the 5 peice baja kit so what kind of limits does that put on my bug? And also could i build my own taller shock towers? i'm just really wondering because i have seen such cool bugs but the shocks they use the the fox and kings are pretty spendy so what is a good site to by those at.? oh and what kind of travel should i have in the front? is it more important to have a greater amount of travel in the front or rear? |
dude those are a lot of questions. i could give you straight up answers but then you wouldn't learn anything. there are quite a few threads to read through in the stickies.
as for a plan for now, install a roll cage. a few places have them, the empi one or the chenowith one will suit you fine. run a good set of seats and 4 point harnesses. then read the threads about front and back suspension in the stickies and make a call on what you want out of the car and how much money you want to spend. thats really what it all boils down to. money . . .
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dustymojave
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"Speed costs money! How fast can you afford to go?"
That is my version of an old hot rodder"s mantra. Huge amount of truth in it.
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