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ECRAB3 Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2008 Posts: 84 Location: New Orleans, La.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: Clear distributor cap questions..opinions |
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| Hi all. I noticed the negative opinions on here regarding the clear type caps whenever it is brought up but I havent really read the reasons why. I heard that they tend to break easier on the tabs, that type of plastic isnt as durable as the maybe solid color types or the old brown caps, I assume. But as far as electrical properties, just by looking at them, im guessing all the balls behind these things are in the post that the plug wires connect to. Maybe that material isnt as good as a conductor as the non clear types or not long enough to connect with the rotor?. What is the reason aside from the plastic breaking easier that makes them so undesireable? And Yes I have one on mine, but I also have a back up for when clear blue one breaks. Just wondering. |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 43076 Location: Long Island, New York, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:58 am Post subject: |
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They arc, they are not as well made.
When was the last time you saw a car with a factory clear cap? _________________ Glenn
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glutamodo  The Android

Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 13073 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Me, I'd just rather stick with OEM quality Bosch or other German-made tune up parts. I saw way too much aftermarket junk when I was a mechanic and I have much more faith in Bosch parts. Before I knew any better when I was much younger, I thought it'd be cool to have one and see what it looked like in there in the dark. Then I saw one, and was underwhelmed. That's a bit of bling that I don't need.
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joescoolcustoms  Samba Member

Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 2828 Location: Clinging to my guns and religion
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: |
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When I drag raced, I used one to set up my distributor. I could see the rotor with a timing light to phase in the terminals (locked distributor running a crank trigger). After phasing complete, I switched back to a OEM bake-o-light style cap for the reasons Glenn stated. _________________ 1-20-13 The end of an Error.
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bon2198 Samba Member

Joined: August 04, 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:16 am Post subject: |
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i have a clear blue one on mine. haven't noticed any difference in quality/performance. but i do keep a bosch in the car for obvious reasons. _________________ 1970 VW Beetle 1776cc MOFOCO w/hydraulic lifters, 042 heads and dual dellorto's
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tuna Samba Member

Joined: October 04, 2004 Posts: 466 Location: Fontana, SoCal, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: |
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I actually watched one arc out to the fuel pump on a car.... that's not a good way to keep your VW alive. Keep the clear caps for trailer queens.... use the good Bosch caps for a car that is actually driven. -- Tuna _________________ Click to view image
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mharney Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: |
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You can tell people all day that the caps are junk and why, but it's like leading a horse to water. They'll just shrug, use them, and then later you get to hear their new song about how they suck, or you get to hear the old "I been using one for years" from the lucky ones.
They're junk. They're made to look cool. They're not made to perform. |
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miniman82  Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 6889 Location: Waukegan, IL
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Bashr52 Samba Member

Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 1975 Location: The bustling Metropolis of Port Crane
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| miniman82 wrote: | This topic again?  |
Yup, and were due for a "how much hp do I have", and "do these electric turbos work". |
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miniman82  Samba Swamp Donkey

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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Bashr52 wrote: | | miniman82 wrote: | This topic again?  |
Yup, and were due for a "how much hp do I have", and "do these electric turbos work". |
You don't need an electric turbo- if you want to go fast, a Honduh guy told me you need THIS! Said it added 25 hp to his Civic. _________________ EFI/TURBO BUILD THREAD
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joescoolcustoms  Samba Member

Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 2828 Location: Clinging to my guns and religion
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| miniman82 wrote: | | Bashr52 wrote: | | miniman82 wrote: | This topic again?  |
Yup, and were due for a "how much hp do I have", and "do these electric turbos work". |
You don't need an electric turbo- if you want to go fast, a Honduh guy told me you need THIS! Said it added 25 hp to his Civic. |
That must be what Dodge put up the exhaust pipe on my diesel dualie.  _________________ 1-20-13 The end of an Error.
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 43076 Location: Long Island, New York, USA
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MAYHEM  Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 1638 Location: The Submarine Capital of the World
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| bon2198 wrote: | | i have a clear blue one on mine. haven't noticed any difference in quality/performance. but i do keep a bosch in the car for obvious reasons. |
Good call. I had one "back in the day" and never had any problems. Have heard of many having problems though.
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Eaallred Samba Member

Joined: May 18, 2003 Posts: 4056 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with the plastic caps is they carbon track. It takes a while, but after time you will start mis-firing because of it.
When new, they work the same as a Bosch cap. Just have to change it more often since the bakelite or whatever material the Bosch caps are made from do not carbon track as badly. _________________ Eric Allred
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ECRAB3 Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2008 Posts: 84 Location: New Orleans, La.
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the information guys on the arcing. That I had not read on here before. I appreaciate the explanations for sure. Even the inevitable slams about HP , trailer queens and hyper blue blinker fluid
Thanks again for the info guys  |
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thefladge Samba Member

Joined: July 25, 2005 Posts: 450 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Back in the day (the '80's) I ran a red see-through cap on my Cal-Look Bug. Worked great, no problems, no "carbon tracking", no arcing. Over time, it faded to orange and needed to be replaced as any normal cap would be replaced from age.
I bought a blue cap. The blue one was a piece of junk. The wires would not stay attached to it. All of the wire connections were too big and the wires had nothing to grip to. I used real Bosch caps from then on.
That being said, I purchased a clear cap a week ago. I bought it only to be able to see if my vacuum advance is working smoothly. I have not tried it yet. After I check that, the Bosch cap is going back on. _________________ 1957 Vintage Baja Bug.
Full roll cage, gear reduction transaxle with Johnson laydown adapters, Porsche 356 spindles, Ford tie rod ends,
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Jake Raby Samba Member

Joined: August 23, 2003 Posts: 5683 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I figured out these things were junk before the age of 13.... These are right up there with chrome alternator pulleys, dune buggy dual exhausts and stock engines with huge cams... _________________ Jake Raby
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fusername Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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I never understood how a dizzy cap could not work... _________________ CustomBusBits@Gmail.com
Need something custom bent up? shoot me an email, maybe we can make it work!
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Jake Raby Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| fusername wrote: | | I never understood how a dizzy cap could not work... |
Use one of these and it'll be clearly illustrated in about 3 months.. Or the first time you drive it in a heavy rain storm! _________________ Jake Raby
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fusername Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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it's tempting to install one just to see how bad it is, that sounds like a good show. _________________ CustomBusBits@Gmail.com
Need something custom bent up? shoot me an email, maybe we can make it work!
WTB: 73-79 Project bus, no rust but that's my only requirement, MISSING engine/glass/trans OK! ANY state!
FORSALE: Thrust cut T4 and 1.9 main bearings |
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