36hp Land Speed Challenge - In a bus, sponsors on board

[Unkl Ian]

Wow, you guys don't mess around.
What motor class are you planning on ?

[splitpile]

[36hplandspeedracer]

Beetle bodies did not change appreciably over the years, nor did Ghias and early Type 2's. The bay window buses however, are substantially more aerodynamic than a split window. And besides, we have to draw a line somewhere. Like the later buses, we have not included Type 3's simply because they never came equipped with the 36hp motor.

You can still acquire a Bug, Ghia or pre-67 Bus and join us. There are still thousands out their looking for a good home.

May the Speed be with you...............

Burly

[Matthew]

[36hplandspeedracer]

Glad you are thinking 36hp Challenge. And yes, it's a ball..............

Burly

[splitpile]

Is a dry sump legal for DSS class engines?
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[36hplandspeedracer]

A dry sump oil system would pass the"guidelines" if fabricated from components available prior to 1965 since it could contribute to improved performance. A "full flow" oil system modification is acceptable since it only contributes to improved engine life, not performance.

Burly

[henry roberts]

[36hplandspeedracer]

Keep it simple and have fun at low cost. One of the main objects of the 36hp Challenge is to keep things within the realm of what was realistically possible when the 36hp engine were new.

Creating a dry sump system that was not available in 65 would bump the car into the NA36 or New Age category where you are encouraged to expand your horizons(within $ reason).

Select your class and build to the guidelines, but most of all, have fun within the "spirit" of the rules.

Burly

[Unkl Ian]

36hplandspeedracer wrote:

Keep it simple and have fun at low cost. One of the main objects of the 36hp Challenge is to keep things within the realm of what was realistically possible when the 36hp engine were new.

THAT is probably the best description of
"Spirit of the Competition" I've seen yet.

[splitpile]

[John Moxon]

[36hplandspeedracer]

Say folks, it's not the spirit of the competition, it's the "Spirit of the Challenge". And thats a whole different attitude. We all have a great time while still trying to make the little 36ers go fast.

Burly

[John Moxon]

It seems to me throwing sponsors money and resources at the challenge is no challenge at all.

What I understood the 36hp Challenge to be, was to create a class where the average Joe can take part in what used to be the domain of the wealthy and the connected. This is intended to be affordable speed trials without the need for corporate sponsorship.

...or am I living in cloud cuckoo land?
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[crofty]

[splitpile]

Sponsership is a way of getting it done, promoting the shops that are willing to do the work and provide the parts needed to build an engine and/or car. If these people weren't willing to do the work on these engines and if people didn't know they exist less people would get involved, less products would come to market.\

I'm going to build a 36 hp engine, what machine shop does work, where can I get a crank, where can I get a cam, I need an oil canister where can I get it, can anybody dyno my engine. I don't see anything wrong with listing the people that are helping me. I am still paying for work. I think the whiners miss the issue.

I got interested in this when building the Judson engine, spent numerous hours looking for resources to complete this engine, spent 1000's of dollars building it, locating parts, machine work, etc. As we are aware building a 36 hp engine isn't CHEAP

John I know you have a "resource page" but half of those people are either gone , bad contact info, etc.

I know I'm a NEWBE in this 36 hp stuff, but I like it. I am doing nothing different then blackline with the unlimited resources they have building their engine, look at their thread.

This thread is about me and my friends building an engine and a bus to attempt a land speed record. If I can get help I'm going to take it. If I can promote the hobby I'm going to do it. Where I have lost the "spirit of the challange", I'm just talking about it in MY thread and going in the DSS class "duel super stock" not a stock engine by any means.

ps. I have had many people offer to help in this endevor from the "36 crowd" it must not be that far from the spirit of it then.
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[John Moxon]

You're not alone is spending a large amount of money on their hobby.

If you have a look at The 36hp Land Speed Challenge Sticky in this section you'll find many people, who over several years, are actively engaged in building their engine, using their own skills, with similar resources you're using but without the need for entensive sponsorship.

They are, as I've said your average Joe, who are committed to the challenge...for the fun of it. They're working on a tight budget within what is affordable to them.

What you have to realise is that there are also many here who contribute to this forum and conduct a VW based business without the need to call attention to the fact.

This challenge is just that, not an advertising opportunity.

PS If you visit my website you will find all the recommended resources, active.
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[splitpile]

[John Moxon]

[Roadcow]

Now this is just becoming a pissing match. I think the Spirit of the challenge is always here in the Stock class. I'm building on a budget and am reaping benefits from those who are ( Like Splitpile and Blackline) doing some serious development work on their SSS or DSS engines. It does take money to go fast in any form of racing, that's a fact. Also how many people have the knowledge and expertise such as Tom and Bruce, they are an elete group which lucky for me are willing to share their knowledge with the rest of us.
I think you'll see the money being spent on the non stock engine where the people are doing some serious R&D work which costs. Yes I am a freind of Ronnies and have been lucky enough to meet most of the 36Hp challengers, I consider myself a lucky guy for doing so. John I have read your posts and thank you for sharing your wisdom, and would invite you over to the Salt to join in on the fun. It would be great to meet you. The one thing I've noticed on this forum is that the racers seem to all get along, and I enjoy that.
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