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Buttafuoco Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2008 Posts: 263 Location: Nor*Cal
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: Tubbing a late Fastback..... |
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Tubbed rear type 3 fastback......Has anyone done it? Pics or specs? Keeping the stock rear springplates.....How wide of a wheel possible. |
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Chory Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2006 Posts: 1318 Location: Jefferson Westside, Eugene, Oregon, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Tubbed?
As in bathtub?
Or do you mean tubed, as in tubular?
Either way, what are you getting at? |
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Buttafuoco Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2008 Posts: 263 Location: Nor*Cal
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Chory wrote: |
Tubbed?
As in bathtub?
Or do you mean tubed, as in tubular?
Either way, what are you getting at? |
Tubbed....as in narrowed rear end. (ie.) big ol fat ass rear tires |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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There is a tubbed notch in Australia that posted pictures here somewhere? _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
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JSMskater Samba Grease Gorilla
Joined: February 01, 2006 Posts: 5362 Location: Murrieta California
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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KCW tubbed that notch pretty hardcore, I'd look at what they did since the structure is almost the same in those areas. _________________ 71 Squareback-FI -- 73 Bay (subaru powered)
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Chory Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2006 Posts: 1318 Location: Jefferson Westside, Eugene, Oregon, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Buttafuoco wrote: |
Chory wrote: |
Tubbed?
As in bathtub?
Or do you mean tubed, as in tubular?
Either way, what are you getting at? |
Tubbed....as in narrowed rear end. (ie.) big ol fat ass rear tires |
New concept learned today. |
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mufins13 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 236 Location: CT
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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the one kcw did is intense there was a ton of work done the whole floor and trunk were removed and it was a notch so there was no issue on reshaping the wheel arches on the out side of the car. on a fasty or a square it would be much harder. |
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Critter1 Samba Member
Joined: August 04, 2004 Posts: 1575 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I took these pics at the 2007 Classic out in front of the Crown Plaza hotel. It has (this is an estimate as I'm going off memory) a nine inch trans raise and is narrowed something like eight inches. It is extreme, but it can be done. You can find the entire build on KCWs site.
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Buttafuoco Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2008 Posts: 263 Location: Nor*Cal
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I talked to a local guy about it and he said you would have to use an early straight axel to narrow. Is this true or is it possible to maintain the IRS rear? Also, what would be a safe horsepower to be running to turn such an amount of rubber? Thanks |
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JesusGreen Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2014 Posts: 29 Location: Surprise AZ
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Is there any pics of the actual tub work? I have seen the one above like 1500 pics but that's a notch not a fasty. I have started to tube the. Easy stuff but would like to see a few pics if possiable on others ideas. I am building a ratrod type car. I am just looking for the posiative input. |
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Chory wrote: |
Buttafuoco wrote: |
Chory wrote: |
Tubbed?
As in bathtub?
Or do you mean tubed, as in tubular?
Either way, what are you getting at? |
Tubbed....as in narrowed rear end. (ie.) big ol fat ass rear tires |
New concept learned today. |
never herd this term used for narrowing.
Commonly I've known tubbed as in wide ass wheel with massive negative offset, giving the wheels a very deep "tub" or dish. _________________ The best of VW engine development!
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Yabbadubbadoo Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:40 am Post subject: |
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There was a silver Porsche engined fastback a while back. Awesome tinware work inside the bay. Perhaps someone knows the one I was talking about. _________________ Sydney, Australia.
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TMI Products Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2014 Posts: 744 Location: Corona, Ca
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:49 am Post subject: |
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vlad01 wrote: |
Chory wrote: |
Buttafuoco wrote: |
Chory wrote: |
Tubbed?
As in bathtub?
Or do you mean tubed, as in tubular?
Either way, what are you getting at? |
Tubbed....as in narrowed rear end. (ie.) big ol fat ass rear tires |
New concept learned today. |
never herd this term used for narrowing.
Commonly I've known tubbed as in wide ass wheel with massive negative offset, giving the wheels a very deep "tub" or dish. |
tubbed is actually referring to on a muscle car, widening the wheels housings or "tubs" _________________ Mario De Leon
1965 Turbo Mustang Fastback
1966 Type 3 Fastback
VW Division Sales Manager
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Corona Ca, 92879
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eyetzr Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2013 Posts: 1425 Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:38 am Post subject: |
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I think you should also look under pro street look. My question is rear engine vw type trans? Remember that there is only so much room in there to put a transaxle & axle shafts. Swing axle will be a little easier. Front engine, north american cay type rear end. There are some people putting V8's in there vw's check there as well. _________________ I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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Nate M. Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2003 Posts: 1306 Location: Anacortes, WA U.S.A.
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:01 am Post subject: |
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I appreciate this for the work that's involved, but,. . .
Am I the only one here that thinks the rear wheels look absolutely silly sticking that far in from the fender lips?? Afraid of rubbage so we'll keep them 2" off the fender??. . . Severely narrowed front-ends look equally foolish to me, but I do understand that they need to be that way to turn the wheels and be somewhat drivable on a slammed car. . . _________________ Regards,
Nate M.
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For heaven's sake, put a type4 and a Porsche 5-speed in there. . . It's the right thing to do!! |
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vwfye Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2000 Posts: 7661
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:35 am Post subject: |
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My notch speedster has only 1/16" clearance at the rears... Crap, no wonder it never sold _________________ 64 No'back Speedster "Pearl"
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eyetzr Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2013 Posts: 1425 Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:42 am Post subject: |
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go to 11th hour industries & see the square that they tubbed out. I think it might show you how much work will be involved. There is also a guy doing a Brasilia that has some nice looking metal work going on. _________________ I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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W1K1 Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2004 Posts: 4919 Location: Southern AB
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W1K1 Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2004 Posts: 4919 Location: Southern AB
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Yabbadubbadoo Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2012 Posts: 914
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Not immediately obvious cause there's no driveshafts installed but check out where the rear hub is positioned. It's above the diagonal trailing arm centerline and clearly positioned more inward. The gearbox must be moved forward too.
Everywhere you look in that engine bay there's mountains of work. Certainly not for the fainthearted. _________________ Sydney, Australia.
66 Type 3 Fastback |
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