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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW. Sounds like a 4 cylinder Harley with a spark plug wire pulled off..
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I commented on it about the scavenging issues and he says they offer a balance pipe.

claudiogdown wrote:
For those who buy the scavenging theory we offer a crossover pipe.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy WOW!! If u ask me, kinda sounds like a merged fatboy but with a more rattled, flat, junkie, sound to it. Looks like something I might want to try on my V-Dub... but different. Though I bet it can perform, & hold up just as strong as any A1 system though... just maybe not as much.
But still regardless of all the hoop-pla, I bet for the price, u just cant beat it & im sure well worth every penny.... Um never mind! Crying or Very sad

"No, seriously, glad to see people try'n new things & keep'n it moven out there but the price is beyond twisted" $199 would still have people like myself scratching their heads, but way more reasonable then whats in stone now. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it still sounds like arse
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

purple rag wrote:

"No, seriously, glad to see people try'n new things & keep'n it moven out there but the price is beyond twisted" $199 would still have people like myself scratching their heads, but way more reasonable then whats in stone now. Rolling Eyes


this is one of the biggest problems in the vw community... folks are used to a hundred bucks for a "complete" exhaust and don't realize what a good system costs, much less how much better a good system can perform.... ever wonder why we don't have many good systems to choose from, or why it's tough to find a good stainless system? because folks don't want to pay what they are worth, the'd rather keep buying cheap ones every few years.

This statement has nothing to do with the exhaust in question, just an observation...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugninva wrote:
purple rag wrote:

"No, seriously, glad to see people try'n new things & keep'n it moven out there but the price is beyond twisted" $199 would still have people like myself scratching their heads, but way more reasonable then whats in stone now. Rolling Eyes


this is one of the biggest problems in the vw community... folks are used to a hundred bucks for a "complete" exhaust and don't realize what a good system costs, much less how much better a good system can perform.... ever wonder why we don't have many good systems to choose from, or why it's tough to find a good stainless system? because folks don't want to pay what they are worth, the'd rather keep buying cheap ones every few years.

This statement has nothing to do with the exhaust in question, just an observation...


Your comments are EXACTLY why S&S Headers no longer make air cooled exhausts. Too many people buying crap like EMPI.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why build a stainless exhaust that will last 10 years when you can make one to last 2 years.

Simple economics.... the company makes more cash by selling more exhausts.

You want a boutique product, expect to pay boutique prices.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marv [UK] wrote:
why build a stainless exhaust that will last 10 years when you can make one to last 2 years.

Simple economics.... the company makes more cash by selling more exhausts.

You want a boutique product, expect to pay boutique prices.


No, they build what sells... the majority of vw folks won't pay for a good system, that's why we are over-run with cheap ones that don't last... I'm having to find a shop that will duplicate my CB hideaway turbo header in stainless for this reason... been quoted 550-600 bucks locally... not out of line as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather send that money to a company that caters to vw's, but there are none that offer it...(Hint: not many folks would spring for it, so there's no market)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugninva wrote:
Marv [UK] wrote:
why build a stainless exhaust that will last 10 years when you can make one to last 2 years.

Simple economics.... the company makes more cash by selling more exhausts.

You want a boutique product, expect to pay boutique prices.


No, they build what sells... the majority of vw folks won't pay for a good system, that's why we are over-run with cheap ones that don't last... I'm having to find a shop that will duplicate my CB hideaway turbo header in stainless for this reason... been quoted 550-600 bucks locally... not out of line as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather send that money to a company that caters to vw's, but there are none that offer it...(Hint: not many folks would spring for it, so there's no market)


have you checked out the systems at vw speedshop

http://www.vwspeedshop.com/home.php?cat=373
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so Claudio just left a voicemail on my cell. Sounds like a cool guy. He told me I could pick it up at one of his "vendors" in Santa Ana so I don't have to drive all the way out to Thousand Oaks. I'll let you guys know when I pick it up. Anyone have a dyno?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet! Results!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucille66 wrote:
Anyone have a dyno?



Are you seriously asking that living in OC? Your neighbor probably has one. Rolling Eyes When I lived in Lemoore, there was one at Roger Vogt's in Visalia that had a 3 pulls for $99 sale. Living where you do, you should have no trouble finding a local dyno.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marv [UK] wrote:

have you checked out the systems at vw speedshop

http://www.vwspeedshop.com/home.php?cat=373


Wow, Marv, thanks for the link.... I hadn't expanded my search outside of the US, but that is exactly what I want, and is a definite possibility for me!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the dyno numbers on these fullers??

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Do they rob HP like the expensive Porsche style systems Raby mentioned??

Getting older or just not wanting to attract cops, a quieter exhaust is nice especially on long trips
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeviMan2001 wrote:
I commented on it about the scavenging issues and he says they offer a balance pipe.

claudiogdown wrote:
For those who buy the scavenging theory we offer a crossover pipe.


Why would they not have the cross over pipe as a standard item?? Obviously the cross over piece is necessary, and IMO should be made to be part of the system. Something like this as an option sounds like an after thought. Oh wait..........silly me..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugninva wrote:
purple rag wrote:

"No, seriously, glad to see people try'n new things & keep'n it moven out there but the price is beyond twisted" $199 would still have people like myself scratching their heads, but way more reasonable then whats in stone now. Rolling Eyes


this is one of the biggest problems in the vw community... folks are used to a hundred bucks for a "complete" exhaust and don't realize what a good system costs, much less how much better a good system can perform.... ever wonder why we don't have many good systems to choose from, or why it's tough to find a good stainless system? because folks don't want to pay what they are worth, the'd rather keep buying cheap ones every few years.

This statement has nothing to do with the exhaust in question, just an observation...

Nope BUGININVA thats where ur wrong "people" as u called myself are not all the same. I simply was state'n that this system in my opion in which I have the right to boost isnt worth what they are asking. I myself isnt the "folk" who wants the so called "cheap" way out. In fact this is the last thing I need for my motor. & the funny thing is I dont have lots of money if that was the case I would already had a system so its been a long process to save and only get the BEST. I take pride in my motor & car so with that being said everything I purchased for both have been top notch. Im in waaaay deep in cash in both! Again I was just speaking simply on that system. I dont mind pay'n for ANYTHING thats worth it. (would u buy it for your performance motor at that price?) by the way what part of Va. are u in?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugninva wrote:
Marv [UK] wrote:

have you checked out the systems at vw speedshop

http://www.vwspeedshop.com/home.php?cat=373


Wow, Marv, thanks for the link.... I hadn't expanded my search outside of the US, but that is exactly what I want, and is a definite possibility for me!


Thats a nice header.. I'll be keeping it in mind as I get closer to my turbo build
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

miniman82 wrote:
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Anyone have a dyno?



Are you seriously asking that living in OC? Your neighbor probably has one. Rolling Eyes When I lived in Lemoore, there was one at Roger Vogt's in Visalia that had a 3 pulls for $99 sale. Living where you do, you should have no trouble finding a local dyno.


Wanna pay for it? Didn't think so.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing comes for free in this world man.........buck up or pack it.
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i think he knows that, since he did "buck up" and buy an exhuast to test for all of us to see the results
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