Dining, Drinking and Stealth Urban Overnighting?

[ANGOVAY]

This may be alittle off the stealth camping but here in Sacramento we have a pretty good size contigent of homeless who sleep in all sorts of RV's and I even see a Westy once in awhile parked under the overpass of the Cap City Freeway (Pioneer Bridge) on 3rd street and around the area. They certainly are not stealth and seemed to hang around for a few weeks at a time, I suppose after the cops ask them to leave and then show up a few weeks or days later. It always appears they are gone during the day but the vehicles and even trailors are there all day. For the most part they don't leave too much of a mess and I'm sure the better they behave the longer the city let's the stay.?
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Mark
90 Westy 1.8T Sold
2016 Sprinter Field Van

[Alaric.H]

[Orbitald]

As for getting quality sleep in a noisy environment (truck stops, rest stops, burning man) I like to use noise canceling earbuds and sleep music, cd/mp3s.

Here's a nice article and reviews on noise canceling earbuds:

http://www.noisecancellingearbuds.net/

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-headphones/

And a couple of places that list sleep music (I think I have the Delta Sleep CDs and another one)

You can listen before buying here:
http://www.soundsleeping.com/mp3downloads.html

Another good selection:
http://serenitysupply.com/catalog/Sleep-Music-9-1.html

Amazon Search "Sleep Music":

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-...=0&y=0
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[ZimZam]

Alaric wrote, " to many lights and to much noise to get any sleep"

I use ear plugs and a dark hat to cover me eyes.
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[Dogberry]

There was a couple mentions of apartment buildings but not the way I use them... this is always my first choice in town if it's a safer kinda neighborhood and street parking is available. I don't park in the apartment lot but on the street in front. Nobody knows in an apartment complex who has company or a second car or if it's a new tenant or anything.. cars coming and going are the norm. I close the rear curtains and the sidewalk side... stack up some gear on the table and stove to semi-cover those windows. Always dressed in dark t-shirt and at least boxers. I don't use the front curtain either. Now that I have an alarm I set that too and the blinky light says... nobody home! Owner is away, right? Otherwise why would the alarm be on... I did that just last week... perfect! You can always dummy up a blinky light too... a nice flashing blue LED is the bomb! Make it look like it has an alarm when it doesn't. I must admit the window tint helps... Now about alcohol.. I don't drink and drive. BUT I have Oregon RV plates on my Westy. If I remember right.. will need to check to be sure... But I think that means I can have an open container in the vehicle as long as it's not is the front... As far as being toasted and rousted from parking spot... would handing the keys over first thing and walking away get you out of trouble? You might need to call a cab and even have the car towed but better than a DUI I guess.. I just won't test that scenario... So open container in an RV? What is the law about this?? I'll check Oregon...
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[Dogberry]

Oregon DMV: It says having having an open container
is a no-no except: SEE LAST PARAGRAPH.

Dunno what that means in real life but I sure as heck have a
open bottle of Jack-in-the-back. My Westy is a registered
motor home according to OREGON DMV.

OPEN CONTAINER VIOLATIONS
811.170 Violation of open container
law; penalty. (1) A person commits the offense
of violation of the open container law
in a motor vehicle if the person does any of
the following:
(a) Drinks any alcoholic liquor in a motor
vehicle when the vehicle is upon a highway.
(b) Possesses on one′s person, while in a
motor vehicle upon a highway, any bottle,
can or other receptacle containing any alcoholic
liquor, which has been opened, or a
seal broken, or the contents of which have
been partially removed.
(c) Keeps in a motor vehicle when the
vehicle is upon any highway, any bottle, can
or other receptacle containing any alcoholic
liquor, which has been opened, or a seal
broken, or the contents of which have been
partially removed. The following apply to
this paragraph:
(A) This paragraph applies only to the
registered owner of any motor vehicle or, if
the registered owner is not then present in
the vehicle, to the driver of the vehicle.
(B) This paragraph does not apply if the
bottle, can or other receptacle is kept in the
trunk of the vehicle, or kept in some other
area of the vehicle not normally occupied by
the driver or passengers if the vehicle is not
equipped with a trunk.
(C) For purposes of this paragraph, a
utility compartment or glove compartment is
considered within the area occupied by the
driver and passengers.
(D) This paragraph does not apply to the
living quarters of a camper or motor home.
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[DAIZEE]

I'm wondering if the storage area under my "sofa" (yes I've seen it referred to as such ) would be considered a "trunk" or the very back "linen closet" shelves?

I've read this entire forum thread and gotten some wonderful ideas (I'm very good at creating things from ideas). I probably won't ever go tinted and after years of shifts and emergency on calls I can sleep just about anywhere, anytime (normal sounds) and my curtains are quite thick but I realized I have some 50" wide black think vinyl, one side plain,other side with the odd gold star. I could create velcro blinds for between windows & curtains.

I get oodles of ideas from thesamba and that is why I hang around plus as you can tell I like sharing.
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[GeorgeL]

[ANGOVAY]

"Hmm, if they have an RV to sleep in are they truly homeless? Sounds to me like they are full time RVers."

Well my guess in this case-yes they are, as far as having a home to live in,- but having something to call home may exempt them from my definition.
I suppose some of these RV'ers may elect to live a minimalist life style and some may be forced to live in a RV...
Just saying there is a bunch here in SacTown that seem to get away with
not so stealth camping....and the local PD doesn't really bother them very much.
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90 Westy 1.8T Sold
2016 Sprinter Field Van

[Smudge1]

Here's a link to the ultimate read on stealth living in your vehicle - very cool and very informative.
Happy reading!
[url]
http://www.whenshtf.com/showthread.php?8419-Jobless-and-living-in-my-truck...-(with-Pics)[/url]

Cheers
Smudge

[Julian13]

Can anyone help me find the post that had a picture of a black curtain that was stretched across the back of the front seats? I recall it was mounted with press studs mounted in the roof lining strip but can't find it anywhere.

[norcalmike]

[Timwhy]

[Julian13]

That's the one Tim, thanks. Was it your post or do you have a link to the post?

[Timwhy]

[Julian13]

Cheers Tim, I'll do a search for that. I believe you said it couldn't be seen from outside and looked like it was all dark inside, is that correct?

[GeorgeL]

That'll fool the casual observer, but a cop with a big flashlight will see that it is a curtain.

Of course, one could just put a car cover over the entire bus so nobody can look in!

[Julian13]

[GeorgeL]

[Julian13]

You sure as hell would get noticed doing that more than once.