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btleboy Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2008 Posts: 45 Location: Akron, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:34 pm Post subject: Flywheel help |
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My clutch started slipping so I pulled the motor tonight. My question is what flywheel my car has in it. Its a 1957 beetle with a 1960 36hp and 1960 split case trans. The reason I'm questioning the flywheel is that it has a 12v starter and it appears to have the bell housing ground out on the edge. Is there anyway to measure the flywheel to determine if its a 180 or 200mm? If so where do I take the measurement. Thanks for any help. Id like to try to get it back together for a vw show on sat. -Steve _________________ 1957 oval hardtop
1978 beetle vert
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26299 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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The opening where the clutch fits in there, that's the part you measure. Once you've seen a few, you can tell at a glance which one you have.
They've made "conversion" flywheels in the past. And like early 60s Bus and Type 3 models had different configurations stock. You might have one of those in there if yours is 12V now.
The ring gear, the larger diameter 12V that requires clearancing, that one has 130 teeth, and the smaller diameter 6V has 109 teeth. Here's a comparison photo of the two "standard" bug flywheels
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Snort Samba Member
Joined: April 02, 2005 Posts: 1957 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Unlikely that the flywheel is 200mm if you have a 36hp, due to different crank pin style (smaller on 36hp), but I suppose it is possible to put a 12V ring gear onto a 36hp flywheel, or re-machine the 12V flywheel to fit the 36hp crank. Photo of engine and flywheel would tell the story. |
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pig-pen Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2012 Posts: 570 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: flywheel help |
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can anyone help me with a quick measurement?
I am about to take a 36hp flywheel to the machine shop for resurfacing and lightening. It is rusty, so I know both surfaces need to be taken down equally to keep the step the correct distance.
I just want to be sure my step right now is correct, as I know nothing of the history of the engine or the flywheel that I have and it may have been made incorrect already once in its life...
So... what should the height of the step on the 36hp flywheel be? _________________ 1954 L227 Type 113
1964 L31 Type 265 |
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Snort Samba Member
Joined: April 02, 2005 Posts: 1957 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Flywheel help |
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I believe it is 24mm for 6V and 21mm for 12V. Or most likely 24mm for 180mm clutch and 21mm for 200mm clutch. |
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pig-pen Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2012 Posts: 570 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:21 am Post subject: Re: Flywheel help |
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yep, 24mm it is right now. thank you for your quick reply. much appreciated. _________________ 1954 L227 Type 113
1964 L31 Type 265 |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17273 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:06 am Post subject: Re: flywheel help |
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pig-pen wrote: |
I know both surfaces need to be taken down equally to keep the step the correct distance. |
This is wrong.
The disc surface of the flywheel does wear slightly. By grinding down the same amount each time you surface the flywheel, you preserve this wear for it's next life. Your 60 year old flywheel may have had several grindings, each time the distance gets farther away from spec.
The correct way is to grind the disc surface, then grind the clutch surface to exactly 24.0mm above the disc surface. Usually you end up grinding much more off the clutch surface.
It is likely that your flywheel measures greater than 24.0mm. If so, it contributed to your slipping clutch. _________________
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pig-pen Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2012 Posts: 570 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Flywheel help |
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I didn't have a clutch! this flywheel was in my back garden. no slipping there, apart from me harvesting the rhubarb. _________________ 1954 L227 Type 113
1964 L31 Type 265 |
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