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gtixpress Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2006 Posts: 282 Location: Mahomet, IL
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: Ospho? |
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Is there anywhere that one can purchase Ospho in a single quart size? I can't seem to find anything online, and I've checked several local stores and no one carries it.
I did find a rust product at Home Depot but it came in a gallon size, but wasn't sure if it was similar. It did have phosphoric acid listed as an ingredient though. I worry about using anything that requires it to be washed away, because I don't want to get water in the car and risk it getting into any hidden areas.
I'm looking for something that I can use on my floor pans and suspension components to convert the rust and provide a protective coating. And not necessarily require painting right away.
Thanks! _________________ Joe P.
1969 VW Type 3 Squareback
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Matt Wilson Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:52 am Post subject: |
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I have been very successful with DupliColor's Rust Fix. It sprays on clear and converts the rust to black metal with a waterproof coating. No need to paint right away. I just got it at the auto parts store next to the other rattle can paints. Not an HVLP sprayable product but works good to spray on the insides of heater channels and tight areas. |
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gtixpress Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2006 Posts: 282 Location: Mahomet, IL
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. Many years ago I had tried a rattle-can rust converter. It seemed to work okay, but the protection didn't last very long. A lot of the spots that I had sprayed started to rust through again. So this time I wanted to go a different route. _________________ Joe P.
1969 VW Type 3 Squareback
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keifernet Samba Search & Rescue
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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gtixpress wrote: |
Thanks. Many years ago I had tried a rattle-can rust converter. It seemed to work okay, but the protection didn't last very long. A lot of the spots that I had sprayed started to rust through again. So this time I wanted to go a different route. |
Search "ospho" and use my name/login for the "author". |
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3715 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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gtixpress wrote: |
Thanks. Many years ago I had tried a rattle-can rust converter. It seemed to work okay, but the protection didn't last very long. A lot of the spots that I had sprayed started to rust through again. So this time I wanted to go a different route. |
I can tell you ospho is the real deal and lasts for a long time. We did my rail buggy frame over 2 years ago, and wherever its scratched, its still a dull grey, even after all this time. And its always wet and dirty. The stuff is a miracle!
I get mine from a local auto body supply store. _________________ "In any racing engine, the nearer you are to it disintegrating, the better it's performance will be"
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gtixpress Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2006 Posts: 282 Location: Mahomet, IL
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. I'll keep searching. I'm sure it's out there somewhere. _________________ Joe P.
1969 VW Type 3 Squareback
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Lil Lulu Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2007 Posts: 1745 Location: Mouth of the Columbia
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Marine stores usually carry ospho in qts and gals. Not Yacht Boys or Yacht Depot but the industrial/commercial fishing stores _________________ '65 Beetle "Lil' Lulu"- Ruby Red
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keifernet Samba Search & Rescue
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jbreddawg Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2006 Posts: 1242 Location: Raleigh NC
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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I get mine at the local auto parts store called Napa. If you don't have a Napa I would just call all your local auto houses, one of them will carry it. _________________ The wheel may be turning but the hamster's dead !
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gtixpress Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2006 Posts: 282 Location: Mahomet, IL
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'll have to try Napa. I usually don't have good luck finding anything useful at auto parts stores other than usual junk.
I did check two ACE hardware stores and neither carried it. And since I live in Central Illinois, we don't have a lot of marine shops around.
Thanks for the input! _________________ Joe P.
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DKS Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2006 Posts: 24 Location: McDonough, GA
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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I get OSPHO at my local Sherwin Williams paint store in gallon bottles for about $30. _________________ Speed Kills. Drive a Bug and live forever!
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VWDruid Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2008 Posts: 1192 Location: Boca de Ratones FL
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ace stopped caring it, In my are any way. try http://www.coastmarineonline.com/
it's under "more..." skybright (Ospho) lower page 3rd collem second from the top. _________________ 70 Westy, 2027cc "dual DRLA 40 m140 i55 wjdoc a165 p33 v30 "w100 straight cut 040 polished heads 1.25 rockers 1.5 A1sidewinder supertrapp muffler trans 091 coil SUM-850500 CDI universal svda Pertronix
http://www.storyofstuff.com/
It's not the straight cut gears It's the T.A.R.D.I.S. engine.
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66uno Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2006 Posts: 602 Location: maryland
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: naval jelly |
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I use Naval jelly. I grind the area out, apply the jelly and then wipe it clean witha wet rag. Then, using a wire brush attachment on my power drill, I hit the area again until the friction heats the surface and drives out the remaining water. Then, I use a rattlecan primer with a rust inhibitor in it or, in some areas I POR-15. Don't know if my method will work longterm, but it seems like a bit of overkill and so, I think that it will.
Hell, the navy uses that shit on old rusty buoys and such. . . |
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VWDruid Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2008 Posts: 1192 Location: Boca de Ratones FL
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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I have navel jelly because ACE stopped caring Ospho.
I like Ospho ,to me its much more versatile it's in a liquid form so you can use it in a spray bottle and the effect it creates when you hit rust you know it's working.
the coastguard uses some thing else I'll have to ask my neighbor what it was again. _________________ 70 Westy, 2027cc "dual DRLA 40 m140 i55 wjdoc a165 p33 v30 "w100 straight cut 040 polished heads 1.25 rockers 1.5 A1sidewinder supertrapp muffler trans 091 coil SUM-850500 CDI universal svda Pertronix
http://www.storyofstuff.com/
It's not the straight cut gears It's the T.A.R.D.I.S. engine.
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5501 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Ospho? |
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gtixpress
I'm having the same problem. Why use Por15 if you have a 3 step process and you still have to use water which causes rust? So check out Picklex http://picklex.com/home.html I just talked to the company on the phone it sounds like what I am looking for. If this works like they said I will be very happy. Just make sure your primer does not contain any acid. I think I will use this on the chassis of my Splitty too. Although I like the hard finish of the Por15 I will have to use epoxy under there now. I'll post when I get it. BTW they mail out the same day $60. per and they do take paypal.
See my thread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3972686#3972686
gtixpress wrote: |
Is there anywhere that one can purchase Ospho in a single quart size? I can't seem to find anything online, and I've checked several local stores and no one carries it.
I did find a rust product at Home Depot but it came in a gallon size, but wasn't sure if it was similar. It did have phosphoric acid listed as an ingredient though. I worry about using anything that requires it to be washed away, because I don't want to get water in the car and risk it getting into any hidden areas.
I'm looking for something that I can use on my floor pans and suspension components to convert the rust and provide a protective coating. And not necessarily require painting right away.
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gtixpress Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2006 Posts: 282 Location: Mahomet, IL
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: |
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That's not a bad price, but beware of shipping costs. One place wanted to charge an additional $22 hazardous material shipping fee, on top of the normal shipping cost. And that was just for the small quart size bottle. _________________ Joe P.
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gfw1985 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Ospho works! Picklex, Duplicolor not impressed. I have been using Eastwoods Rust Converter which I believe is made by SEM and personally I really like it. By itself is does keep rust at bay since it actually converts the rust to primer. I've been covering that with Rust Encapsulator and have had no problems epoxy priming and painting over them. |
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tspot100 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Ospho? |
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i had my local hardware store order me a case about 10 yrs ago. still have 3 gallons left. great stuff as stated. if u cant find ospho, try milk-stone remover from tractor supply warehouse. mostly phosphoric acid and costs 11$ a gallon. |
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