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biggreen1 Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2012 Posts: 4 Location: Central PA
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you all for the info. That's quite a difference in teeth between the two. Is the manual flywheel about the same diameter with smaller teeth? I've got a auto starter coming on Monday. I'll count the teeth on the flywheel before I put it in. BG1 |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24765 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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What is a "Manual Flywheel"????
Maybe you mean standard stick shift flywheel. Which come in 6 and 12 volt flavors, see previous post. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available!
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24765 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Auto stick (see type 1 post-1967 literature on this website). Used a self supporting starter which has both bushings inside the starter. This self supporting starter was 12 volt and geared as such.
There is a rather hard to find 6 volt self supporting starter that came out in the early 1960s, and was geared for such. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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biggreen1 Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2012 Posts: 4 Location: Central PA
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
What is a "Manual Flywheel"????
Maybe you mean standard stick shift flywheel. Which come in 6 and 12 volt flavors, see previous post. |
Yea, funny. I appreciate the advice/info so I'm ok with the attitude. Thanks, bg1 |
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Harris Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 1317 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:46 am Post subject: Starter Bushing |
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If you have a 6 volt starter use a 1/2" x 13 TAP to screw into the bushing to remove it.
If you have a 12 volt starter use a 7/16 x 14 TAP. |
Worked perfectly on my 6 volt. Been a long time since I've done one and the tap idea is indeed a piece of cake. Thanks
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crvc Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 1308
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: |
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RedHouse wrote: |
I'm going to need to buy one next week. Is there 12V autostick starters.
Guessing 1967 and up.
Tried to lookup at auto parts websites but no luck.
Need to stop by the store soon. |
CIP1 has them. They cost a lot more than a standard starter.
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gti72 Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 69
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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i have a problem with my bushing i just bought a new starter,get the old bushing off the tranny and when i m trying to put the new one it looks like its a little bit to big!!!!i cannot put it in the hole to tight very to big!!!!!! |
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gti72 Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 69
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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i have a problem with my bushing i just bought a new starter,get the old bushing off the tranny and when i m trying to put the new one it looks like its a little bit to big!!!!i cannot put it in the hole to tight very to big!!!!!! |
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Pogel Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2005 Posts: 38 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:29 pm Post subject: Starter bushing change with engine in |
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Today I undid the four engine bolts and the rear engine tin, then just slid the engine back an inch or two. Then I was able to hit out the bushing from the starter (front) side, then tap in a new bushing. Done on a '66 Bug. |
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Canadian VW Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 220 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:27 am Post subject: |
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GA_Boy wrote: |
As 64vdub said, no need to pull the engine. Just pull the starter and anything else in the way (Heater tubes).
If you have a 6 volt starter use a 1/2" x 13 TAP to screw into the bushing to remove it.
If you have a 12 volt starter use a 7/16 x 14 TAP.
If you have a tranny from a 6 volt car but have a 12volt starter it will have a conversion bushing and that takes a 7/16 x 14 TAP also.
Basically it's a piece of cake with no icing.
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This saved me so much frustration. 7/16" tap worked beautifully. 67 Beetle 12V _________________ Instagram: patrick_macpherson
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24765 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:35 am Post subject: |
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biggreen1 wrote: |
Eric&Barb wrote: |
What is a "Manual Flywheel"????
Maybe you mean standard stick shift flywheel. Which come in 6 and 12 volt flavors, see previous post. |
Yea, funny. I appreciate the advice/info so I'm ok with the attitude. Thanks, bg1 |
Attitude was just confusion. Would be like you saying you only wear manual underwear. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Rixwagn Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing |
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Hey guys, after installing the new bushing do you grease/lube the starter portion (the nub) that goes into the bushing or leave it dry? I've already installed my starter and it works fine. If grease is needed I don't mind pulling he start to do so, thanks!
I can't find any info on this elsewhere. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24765 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing |
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Rixwagn wrote: |
Hey guys, after installing the new bushing do you grease/lube the starter portion (the nub) that goes into the bushing or leave it dry? I've already installed my starter and it works fine. If grease is needed I don't mind pulling he start to do so, thanks!
I can't find any info on this elsewhere. |
Supposed to soak the bushing in oil. The bronze it is made of is porous, so needs oil in those holes. If you did not do that, use a Q-tip to slather in some oil inside of it now.
Does not hurt to also grease the starter armature shaft bearing area. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Rixwagn Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing |
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Good to know, thanks! I'll pull it and add a little oil to both areas. |
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing |
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I've been running an autostick starter in my bug for years. IDK why anyone messes with a bushing in a 12v system. Like 40 bucks. I think I ordered one for a 70ish 1600 autostick. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31380 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
Does not hurt to also grease the starter armature shaft bearing area. |
Also OK to put some grease on flywheel teeth and starter gear teeth. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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herbie1200 Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2006 Posts: 833 Location: Rome - Italy
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing |
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I never put grease on the flywheel ring, centrifugal force should throw it away in a couple of seconds.
Greased only the internal of starter bushing. |
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