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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But that drivers side overrider support tube could use a Polish. Smile


I was thinkin' the passenger side overrider top support could use some dulling...and "patina" Laughing

Looking good there Outlaw..
Those Pinto Bean Carbs have issues clearing decklid on 66 and prior.. I mentioned that earlier. Make sure you adjust the carb forward where it will hit the fan shroud and that nice shiny paint of yours. If its not enough and you have room, modify the cleaner base to slide forward a little. Catch 22, when you modify.. something always has to give.

As for the throttle return spring. In addition to the one you have now, you can add a spring on the cable like the early VW's use. Thats one way to help. Be sure nothing is binding.

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Derp. Shoulda read your post before replying, too. Laughing

Yes you did so I wasn't surprised at all. I kinda expected it so it was no biggie. I figured burn that bridge when I got there and here I am!

I'm going to double check the binding issue. I was hurting pretty abd last night and was exhausted. There was a second pair of eyes with me and he didn't see anything binding, but I'll take a second look.

Those early springs are REALLY hard to find. Are there any other return spring options?
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure the cable isn't being interfered/binding anywhere, has it been greased lately??? You could put a return spring on the throttle arm, pic attached to give you an idea

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Make sure the cable isn't being interfered/binding anywhere, has it been greased lately??? You could put a return spring on the throttle arm, pic attached to give you an idea

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I greased it last night. I'll take a pic of my pinto bean. Maybe ya'll can help me figure out a spring option like that. I think it would be a good idea anyway just for safety sake since the throttle lever feels weak anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ran into that problem with my progressive, so i switched to dual carbs for more clearence with the decklid. i had a short air filter and turned around to where it was right next to the fan shroud. still wouldn't clear. stand offs will make it clear.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ran into that problem with my progressive, so i switched to dual carbs for more clearence with the decklid. i had a short air filter and turned around to where it was right next to the fan shroud. still wouldn't clear. stand offs will make it clear.


I do not want to run duals at all. I don't want to deal with the adjustment issues with the huge temperature/humidity swings here. In a road trip through the mountains, the temp will change a full 20 degrees cooler between there and back - very hard on some duals. I already deal with that on my squareback. Sad

I don't like standoffs on an early bug. I like the smooth profile they have. But, in this case, I may have no choice. Plus, with such a hot motor, it might be a wise move on my part.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School VW hot rod trick..
Tennis Ball the latch..
Cut a slit in a tennnis ball, slide it over your latch on the lid. It gives a fresh gulp of air, which YOU WILL NEED, and gives a little extra clearence for your cleaner.
You have full bumpers so it will hardly be noticed. The only drawback is you will need to have the VW deck lid spring installed lid, so it will keep the lid sprung closed during stop light launches. Cool
Other than that and its a good fix. Looks fine too. I use a tennis ball when I run my smooth lid on hot days.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:
Old School VW hot rod trick..
Tennis Ball the latch..
Cut a slit in a tennnis ball, slide it over your latch on the lid. It gives a fresh gulp of air, which YOU WILL NEED, and gives a little extra clearence for your cleaner.
You have full bumpers so it will hardly be noticed. The only drawback is you will need to have the VW deck lid spring installed lid, so it will keep the lid sprung closed during stop light launches. Cool
Other than that and its a good fix. Looks fine too. I use a tennis ball when I run my smooth lid on hot days.

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Hmm...That would work. My decklid has the spring installed. I just gotta look again because I think the gap between apron and lid is WAY more than that.

...the fresh gulp of air is why I'll bend on the decklid stand offs. I'll get over my vain self to keep it running cool. Plus, my rear tin is a POS. So any fresh air is a big help.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hubby says there's no return spring at all. It doesn't return even if the cable is attached. So I'm looking for solutions.



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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the time being I would just go to the HELP! aisle at the local parts store and get a pack of return springs. There is usually something in the assortment that you can make work.

One end can go in front of where the cable bolt is and then find a spot for the other end that will pull it closed. It becomes obvious as you play with it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For the time being I would just go to the HELP! aisle at the local parts store and get a pack of return springs. There is usually something in the assortment that you can make work.

One end can go in front of where the cable bolt is and then find a spot for the other end that will pull it closed. It becomes obvious as you play with it.


Alrighty. There's my plan. Thank ya bunches! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck, any doubts with the arrangement you put together just put a pic up and one of us will say something that makes sense, hopefully Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good luck, any doubts with the arrangement you put together just put a pic up and one of us will say something that makes sense, hopefully Very Happy


Laughing Laughing Perfect!
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used the "old style" cable return spring kit, (Still available special order)
I've also made a metal tab off the drivers rear corner air cleaner bolt and simply attached a regular return spring like previously mentioned.

More than one way to spring a Pinto Bean..

Carry an extra throttle cable.....too!
I use bulk universal braided cable from a hardware (Lowes) and screw type cable stops. They have return springs too...
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:
I have used the "old style" cable return spring kit, (Still available special order)
I've also made a metal tab off the drivers rear corner air cleaner bolt and simply attached a regular return spring like previously mentioned.

More than one way to spring a Pinto Bean..

Carry an extra throttle cable.....too!
I use bulk universal braided cable from a hardware (Lowes) and screw type cable stops. They have return springs too...


How do you connect the universal cable at the pedal? Pics?
Might be good to get a roll and supplies so I have extras for both bugs.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How do you connect the universal cable at the pedal? Pics?
Might be good to get a roll and supplies so I have extras for both bugs.


Feed the cable through the pedal hole, and add a screw type cable stop. It works the same at either end. Keep it simple. You can also use the crimp style cable stops. They work well too.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well now that you explain it all I can say to myself is "duh". Very Happy
Nice and simple!
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll keep that in mind, too. I always keep a train case in the trunk with throttle cable, clutch cable, points, rotor, belt, an entire dizzy, wire ties, metal wire, duct tape, voltage tester, PB Blaster, oil, bolts, nuts, washers, paper towels, and a number of other items including a fully stocked tool bag. Also, bungees, two ground cloths, two flashlights, jumper cables, two jacks, a british billie club, two fire extinguishers, two or three folding chairs, a knee pad, and even spare change!

And let me tell you! It comes in handy! For me and folks I roll with! Laughing
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Is that all? Laughing

I used to keep a travel bag full of stuff like that....moved it from car to a car..
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hubby says there's no return spring at all. It doesn't return even if the cable is attached. So I'm looking for solutions.



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When i had my carb like that i went straight down with longer spring and put a "p" clamp on the distributor clamp nut, worked great, my .02
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well &^*%$. Got standoffs and just what I (and everybody else) was afraid of. Decklid doesn't clear my bumper. Thanks to some PO back in the day, the bumper brackets are bolted straight in with no adjustment. Gotta figure out how to drop the bumper about .5 to .75 inches.

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