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Chris74 Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Summerville, SC
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!
I got home and decided to look under the carpet and padding like “badassdubs” did and to my surprise it had “hellas” written on it. So I guess that is all the proof I need to prove my new project is a Sunbug.
Now I just need to finish my daughter’s ’73 Super so I can start restoring my Sunbug.
Thanks to everyone who was kind enough to help me figure out a little bit of the history of my car. The people on this site are the BEST.
Chris |
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bvolks Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2004 Posts: 845 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Did they all have the corduroy inserts in the seats? I thought my 74 was a Sunbug but now I'm not so sure. It does have the center console though.
_________________ 1985 Diesel Jetta Coupe (temporarily retired at
756,000 km)
1971 Doublecab project
1995 Golf CL
1974 Beetle
1978 Westfalia |
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a.wilson Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2007 Posts: 2033 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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kaseyart wrote: |
I have a Sunbug Super that I am restoring. Have the shift knob, decklid emblem (had one made in metal). |
Neat! A few years back, I asked this guy that has worked for over 30 something years at our local VW dealership in the parts department if he remebered anything about the sunbug badge.
He recalled that they were made of plastic.
Who did you get to make yours?
bvolks: Got any more pics? They could be older replacements or the corduroy was ripped off at some point. _________________ Be kind to all critters. America's "H8TERZ" can drink sludgy used Motor Oil!
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badassdubs Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2008 Posts: 209 Location: WA
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Chris74 wrote: |
GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!
I got home and decided to look under the carpet and padding like “badassdubs” did and to my surprise it had “hellas” written on it. So I guess that is all the proof I need to prove my new project is a Sunbug.
Chris |
Awesome. Glad I could help. Now you need to get a birth certificate.
FYI, I tried to get one for my '65 and they refunded my money because the microfische was unreadable. So obviously they haven't put in on the computer, so time will be your enemy as to whether or not the microfische file with your car on it is still readable. |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17288 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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I may be wrong on this, but as far as I recall, the Sunbug special edition didn't appear until late in the model year. May, June and July cars only.
A Sunbug has to have either a convertible top or a sunroof.
A Sunbug has to be metalic gold (a couple of recipes exist for the colours)
A 74 without a sunroof might be factory painted gold, if so, it ain't a Sunbug.
A 74 convertible might be painted in a colour that's not gold, then it ain't a Sunbug.
Glenn, do you recall if there were gold Bugs on the lot the day you bought yours? _________________
overheard at the portland Swap Meet... wrote: |
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Chris74 Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Summerville, SC
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:51 am Post subject: |
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I ordered a birth certificate yesterday. bvolks, my convertible does not have the corduroy seat inserts, but the seats could have been recovered. When I remove the seats for recovering I am going to take a closer look and see if I can find any corduroy fabric.
Does anyone know of a company that makes the correct color interior for Sunbugs? I want to restore my car back to original, or as close as I can. Also, does anyone know how many Sunbgs were made?
Thanks,
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bvolks Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2004 Posts: 845 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:27 am Post subject: |
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They could have possibly recovered but the car was only 8 years when it was hit in the rear passenger's side and put into the barn where I found it in 92. _________________ 1985 Diesel Jetta Coupe (temporarily retired at
756,000 km)
1971 Doublecab project
1995 Golf CL
1974 Beetle
1978 Westfalia |
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ncbill Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2006 Posts: 73 Location: charlotte NC
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: Sun bug interior |
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My Sun Bug has, as best as I can tell from the picture, the exact interior as the sun bug pictured by bvolks.Mine has a weave center pattern with smooth sides/back in brown. The door panels are also brown. Mine has a black door tag manf. 01/74 Convert
Was the corduroy insert was an option?
Dear Kaseyart, could you elaborate on having the engine hood bug emblem
made
Thanks/Bill |
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kaseyart Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2008 Posts: 73 Location: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:05 am Post subject: |
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From what I can tell from my research on sunbugs there were actually a few different interiors. The brown with the inserts and then just a brown with no inserts. Again this is from what I understand.
Chris74: Number on the consoel is: ZVW-155-111 Here are pics:
ncbill: I have a friend that works for a company that makes the metal plates that foil stamp on the front of hard cover books. (hope that makes sense) If he has extra time he can do side work. I redrew the sunbug logo from the bottom of the brochure in illustrator. Took the length form the standard "volkswagen" emblem on the back and sized it from there. He then took that and made a 3D image and cut it from a light weight aluminum if I remember correctly. The thickest part (sunglasses) is 5mm thick and the thinnest (inside font) is 2mm thick. I then took them and sprayed them with auto grade paint and clear coat. I have more pictures if you would like to see. Hope that is what you were wondering. Sorry so long. |
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Chris74 Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Summerville, SC
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Kaseyart, Thanks for the info. My console looks exactly like yours and I believe the numbers are the same. I will have to check when I get home. It is good to hear that the seats came with different options, since my seats are all vinyl. Of course they are worn out and I will be replacing them, but now at least I have different options. |
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ncbill Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2006 Posts: 73 Location: charlotte NC
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: Sun Bug Emblem |
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Dear Kaseyart, I smell a side business making the sun bug logos. Give it a shot I'm in for one.
Bill |
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kaseyart Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2008 Posts: 73 Location: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Sun Bug Emblem |
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ncbill wrote: |
Dear Kaseyart, I smell a side business making the sun bug logos. Give it a shot I'm in for one.
Bill |
No worries, I am actually in talks with him. Just have to get a price from him to see what I would be out of pocket. Also need to decide to offer them painted, unpainted or both.
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a.wilson Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2007 Posts: 2033 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Sun Bug Emblem |
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ncbill wrote: |
Dear Kaseyart, I smell a side business making the sun bug logos. Give it a shot I'm in for one.
Bill |
Agreed! _________________ Be kind to all critters. America's "H8TERZ" can drink sludgy used Motor Oil!
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Chris74 Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Summerville, SC
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Kaseyart, I would buy one also if you decide to have them made |
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bond007 Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2002 Posts: 284 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Sun Bug Emblem |
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kaseyart wrote: |
ncbill wrote: |
Dear Kaseyart, I smell a side business making the sun bug logos. Give it a shot I'm in for one.
Bill |
No worries, I am actually in talks with him. Just have to get a price from him to see what I would be out of pocket. Also need to decide to offer them painted, unpainted or both.
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Count me in as well!!!
I recently acquired a 03/74 standard (non-super beetle) Sunbug. It does have the sunroof, black VIN sticker on the door jamb, exterior gold paint, "chocolate brown" interior, padded steering wheel, console, and an item I haven't heard discussed before: The knobs for the small quarter window at the doors have a wooden insert, as well as the glovebox release knob (no-key one).
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bvolks Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2004 Posts: 845 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Sun Bug Emblem |
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Count me in as well!!!
I recently acquired a 03/74 standard (non-super beetle) Sunbug. It does have the sunroof, black VIN sticker on the door jamb, exterior gold paint, "chocolate brown" interior, padded steering wheel, console, and an item I haven't heard discussed before: The knobs for the small quarter window at the doors have a wooden insert, as well as the glovebox release knob (no-key one).
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Maybe that's why someone stole my glove box latch last year and why there was no shifter knob when I bought it. _________________ 1985 Diesel Jetta Coupe (temporarily retired at
756,000 km)
1971 Doublecab project
1995 Golf CL
1974 Beetle
1978 Westfalia |
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Chris74 Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Summerville, SC
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="kaseyart"]From what I can tell from my research on sunbugs there were actually a few different interiors. The brown with the inserts and then just a brown with no inserts. Again this is from what I understand.
Chris74: Number on the consoel is: ZVW-155-111 Here are pics:
My seats are smooth brown vinyl with brown basket weave inserts. Maybe these are the original seats.
Thanks kaseyart, that is number on my console. Mine is dirty and faded and I would like to repaint it, could you tell me if the black is shiny, satin or flat black? Where did you find all your info on Sun Bugs? |
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Chris74 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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John7 my VIN is 1542446888 |
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kaseyart Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Chris74 wrote: |
Thanks kaseyart, that is number on my console. Mine is dirty and faded and I would like to repaint it, could you tell me if the black is shiny, satin or flat black? Where did you find all your info on Sun Bugs? |
Chris: I had to look last night to really get a good look. I would have to say it's a little between shiny & satin. Probably depends on how clean it is. It is basically the same finish as the dash pad. Think they were supposed to match or as close as they can.
All the info was just a lot of looking around on the internet and connecting the dots. A couple good sites are http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/a/saarij/sunbug/ & http://www.sebeetles.com/sun.htm
Also I worked at an air cooled only parts store for a few years and talked to a lot of people about them. The thing I have learned about VWs over the last 10 years as I am sure many people know this Volkswagen was never really consistent all the time. They would change things mid year and no one would know. Also have 2 or 3 different variations of things. Like interiors and such. Let me know if there is anything you need to know. I learned by asking questions. Always glad to help. |
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jwcurry Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Just a general comment...you can't always go by what someone had on their car when they bought it new. I worked in dealerships for almost thirty years. It is not uncommon for a dealer to take a standard trim vehicle and dress it up with SE parts to get more money out of it.
Examples:
At a Honda dealership, we upgraded LX models with LX-i wheels and trim.
At a Ford dealership, we upgraded XLT trucks with FX4 decals, but didn't change suspension components (which FX4 desination was supposed to have)---or added chrome exterior trim (non-OEM) to XLT's to mimic Chrome Edition trucks.
We would also pull cloth interiors and install leather to "upgrade" a standard model. None of these "upgrades" were mentioned to a customer...unless they were familiar with what was supposed to come on a vehicle and asked.
Whenever I see a thread like this about what came on what new--I think that in thirty years, all those cars modified at the dealership will be the object of a debate on what came on what, when. |
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