Wolfsburg West Repro Abarth

[EverettB]

A member on here told me in person that the exhaust would not clear his 1955 Barndoor Bus rear apron.
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[Thomas Pedigo]

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[AlteWagen]

what is the difference between the A100 and A200? Both engines are 36hp, the only other change is the apron between 55 and 56.




In Fig 3 I can see two flange locations on the BP. Does the 55 earlier apron have the reinforcement piece that 56 up aprons have? If not that looks to be the reason for the change.

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[Thomas Pedigo]

Well, I guess I should have saved some money and just slapped a nice set of dual quiet-packs on my '56. I personally think,(and this might be a little anal retentive),the pipes look like total dog shit hang'n down there for absolutely no good reason.
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[EMPIFLAKE]

This is a pic of my buddies 56 vert! He's runnin Mr Wob's exhaust same a cip! This is the one I have also if you notice if it was any higher it would hit the cut out opening in the apron and blister the paint! Does the ww abarth hang lower than this in comparson to the apron!!

[Thomas Pedigo]

Compared to that pic,mine hang about another 1 1/2" lower. Ill upload some pics as soon as I can get to my computer.
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[Thomas Pedigo]

well i have some good pics to add to this topic but i cant seem to upload them. you can refer to my personal gallery to view though.[/img]
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[AlteWagen]

Yeah, WTF?

[Thomas Pedigo]

Thanks Derluftwagen for the upload. I would be remiss if I did not mention that the original "pee-shooters" were approx 1" below where they should have been before I swapped-out the muffler due to a worn-out front tranny mount. However,the majority of the lower hanging issue on the exhaust is a result of the design itself. I first contacted WW via email once I installed it, asking if it was designed to be a "one size fits all" type of application as far as type1 and split window busses go,but apparently after spending over $2,500.00 with them in the last 12 months,they didn't feel it was necessary to respond to my email.
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[AlteWagen]

Yeah your stock looks low too. Maybe wasted rear trans mounts too? What kind of trans is in there? Ive seen some early pan with late trans that had some FUNKY home made conversion stuff in there that made the engine tilt one way or another. Hope under the back seat there is no strange hack.

[Thomas Pedigo]

It has a splitcase transaxle still intact and I did actually measure the original sag before the muffler swap. If you look at the side-view of the muffler,one can see the verticle distance in elevation between the inlet and outlet on the WW Abarth itself. That view looks NOTHING like the cut-sheet previously posted on this topic. I should also point-out,that the original muffler was an older aftermarket repop...not original equipment.
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[AlteWagen]

Do you have the correct nose cone and mount on the trans? Possibly a one year only 60 split case trans and cone?

[Thomas Pedigo]

Ill have to check that out, but what I do know about the '60,(since I just sold one) is the droop was a result of the transaxle carrier and required a special "one year only" nose cone mount. As I have the original pan on my '56,I can only assume that everything is correct for that year at this point...ie; nosecone/front transaxle mount. If you look at the last images,you can tell the take-off for the downward sloping axhaust is at a higher centerline than the WW repop. We really need to see an actual side view of the original Abarth to see just how the exhaust tips are oriented on a verticle plane compared to the inlets from the #1 and #3 "J" tubes
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[AlteWagen]

There are a several 60 only parts. Frame horns are at a different angle than pre and post 60, I thought the carrier was the same though. Front mount, nose cone, transmission, oil dip stick, and inner apron sheet metal are also one year only.


These patent blue prints tell the story. But even if you had an original muffler it looks like it would still hang lower than it should.






Does the Mr. Wob repro follow the original design more accurately?

[Thomas Pedigo]

"Frame horns" is what I should have said instead of "trans carrier". Why is it that I can see MAJOR differences in overall design, yet the obvious still escapes this thread? Patiently waiting for clarification... seriously,if you wanted to discuss all of the '60 one year only issues, we could discuss the overly engineered horn design as well. Thanks for your input.
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[AlteWagen]

[Thomas Pedigo]

I suspect that Mr WOB's is closer to original in design. Could you post side view pic?
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[58Dub]

for what its worth....here is a pic of my dads '60 back in the day with an original Abarth

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