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ftp2leta Samba Member
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16504 Location: Brookeville, MD
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dubstar Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2009 Posts: 1437 Location: New York
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ProvoCyclist Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2004 Posts: 593 Location: Murray, Utah
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I did mine about a year ago, lock cyl and switch (overkill, i know) to try and remedy a random no-start thing happening...didnt fix it , turns out the starter had gone to hell.
Oh well, the switch was pretty far gone anyway. An ounce of prevention as they say. _________________ Clark
Current: 1986 Tintop GL 2wd, stock 2.1L, manual trans, Flash Silver LP7Y.
Past: 1985 Sunroof GL, 2wd, Subaru 3.3L, manual trans, resprayed to Diamond Silver L97A |
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agreendaya Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2006 Posts: 1307 Location: Winthrop, MA USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know how it causes fire, but I had mine try to strand me several times. Good news is if you've got two short pieces of wire, it's a piece of cake to do an emergency repair (what I had to do). If you just pull the wiring bit out of the back of the switch, connect the fat red wires (I think one is striped), then jump that to the other hole that does the starter (just guess & check). You of course need to have the key to unlock the steering wheel...
Having put that info up here, it is super easy to replace the switch. _________________ '74 Bug - Gone
'69 Westy - Gone
'74 Westy - Gone
'78 Transporter - Gone
'69 Baja - Gone
'91 Vanagon Carat - Gone
‘71 Bus - Gone
Current: ‘74 Westy 2.0L, hydraulic valves, dual EMPI 34s |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Mine's fine. |
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Mundopacheco Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2006 Posts: 439 Location: Durango, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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BTW that mounting screw that Benny points to with his red arrow, should be good and tight. I always put blue lock tite on the threads. This can work itself loose and be quite an irritant. I've gone in there thinking the switch had to be replaced, and it turned out to be loosely mounted....just an FYI |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:28 am Post subject: |
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I really wish that VW had put the mounting screw accessible without removing the whole ignition lock assembly. If they had put the screw on the outside of the assembly, it would be 1/20th of the work to swap out.
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ajdenette Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2009 Posts: 768 Location: Hope Valley RI
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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And 1/20th the effort to steal the van after you get in!! I dont mindthe work that makesit harder for some one else. |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16504 Location: Brookeville, MD
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16504 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:43 am Post subject: |
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ajdenette wrote: |
And 1/20th the effort to steal the van after you get in!! I dont mindthe work that makesit harder for some one else. |
Actually that switch isn't needed at all to steal the bus. Just take off the harness plug from the bottom of the switch and then jump the right terminals. Takes 30 seconds. Only problem would be the steering wheel lock, but that can be defeated as well. _________________ Dave O
'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
"To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive." Robert Louis Stevenson
MD>Canada>AK>WA>OR>CA>AZ>UT>WY>SD
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620646
Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=695371
The Western Syncro build
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=746794 |
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errolprowse Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2009 Posts: 177 Location: monterey california
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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thats why i roll with a big old steering wheel lock that goes over the whole thing. i think it offers better protection than a alarm in some ways. _________________ '89 Vanagon GL
The ultimate kiteboarding/surfing/skimboarding van! |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16504 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Vsyevolod Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2009 Posts: 205 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Details please!
Stephen
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scobax Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2007 Posts: 236 Location: Bend, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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The wierd thing is, I read this yesterday during my morning coffee, then about an hour later the wife and I jump in the van to go for a hike. We made it about a block and lo-and-behold, the wipers won't work- nor will the lowbeams- nor the heater fan.
We turned around, I pulled the ignition plug, hotwired it, and everything came back. Crazy timing! If I hadn't read this post that morning, I probably would have spent hours trying to figure out what happened. Then again, maybe if I hadn't read this post, the switch wouldn't have failed!!
All of these have worked fine for years. It's as if reading this post was all that it took to kill the ignition switch! Spooky!
Thanks Ben, but I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't do that long-distance Canadian voodoo again! _________________ 87 Syncro Westy w/ Suby 2.5
RIP: 2.1 WBX. You were a good dog 'ol feller
“The word adventure has gotten overused. For me, when everything goes wrong, that's when adventure starts” -Yvon Chouinard
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16504 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Vsyevolod wrote: |
Details please!
Stephen
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I use a fog light switch to activate a relay that connects the ground wire for the fuel pump. With the fog light switch in the 'ON' position the relay is active and the ground circuit is complete. In the 'OFF' position the relay breaks the ground connection. How many people will turn on the fog light switch prior to trying to start a car? _________________ Dave O
'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
"To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive." Robert Louis Stevenson
MD>Canada>AK>WA>OR>CA>AZ>UT>WY>SD
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620646
Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=695371
The Western Syncro build
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=746794 |
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DWC Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2007 Posts: 223 Location: San Jose CA
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm starting the "I hate Ben" post.
Damn it Ben, your always right!
Changing the switch was a pain in the ass, but it would have been a bigger pain in the ass without the link to your page showing all the steps to take to get to the switch since the Bently didn't really show anyone what was involved.
Perhaps I will add 10c and Dogpilot, and Kevin and a few more of you that always help me when I've got a problem (and everyone else here) to the post.
Seriously, thank you all - you've been a great help and it's appreciated.
DC _________________ 83.5 Westy Waterboxer
71 Squareback
81 Westy
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ftp2leta Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 3271 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
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DWC wrote: |
I'm starting the "I hate Ben" post.
Damn it Ben, your always right!
Changing the switch was a pain in the ass, but it would have been a bigger pain in the ass without the link to your page showing all the steps to take to get to the switch since the Bently didn't really show anyone what was involved.
Perhaps I will add 10c and Dogpilot, and Kevin and a few more of you that always help me when I've got a problem (and everyone else here) to the post.
Seriously, thank you all - you've been a great help and it's appreciated.
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No need to start such a thread, i have plenty of enemies. 30% like to argue with me, i have learned how to deal with them.
When you do that once, and only once:
You learn about everything, no way out.
I choose to share, that is my problem. _________________ Working with rust, grease, dirt and dust is a sad truth.
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dobryan Samba Member
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gears Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Thanks a million for the help, Ben. Due to your clear photo tutorial, it took me about 30 minutes to change my ignition switch instead of probably a couple hours of head scratching. Great stuff. |
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