Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Running WAY too RICH?? Help?
Forum Index -> HBB Off-Road Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
k4t00m
Samba Member


Joined: September 11, 2009
Posts: 2
Location: California
k4t00m is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Running WAY too RICH?? Help? Reply with quote

I have a 1915cc with a single Weber on top. Very recently, I have noticed that the engine appears to be running extremely rich... It has started to run hot to the point of starting to burn the powder coat Shocked as well as spit out black soot so I'm pretty sure that there is some issue with over-carburetion. Fuel pressure regulator appears to be in spec. Around the same time, I also noticed that my fuel pump sounds like it is failing to prime correctly (just keeps running hard--never quiets down like it should).

I guess my question is whether or not a malfunctioning fuel pump could cause the engine to run extremely rich all of the sudden like I have described. Theoretically, I would imagine that if the fuel flow is never stopped after the float bowl fills that all the extra fuel would go right to the cylinder and cause a rich mixture.

Obviously, as you can see from the above post, I am still quite a newbie at all of this. Just trying to learn a little more about all of this stuff. Any ideas as to where to start to fix this issue would be of great help.

Thanks,
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
2gr8dgs
Samba Member


Joined: June 20, 2005
Posts: 491
Location: salem,oregon
2gr8dgs is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your checked your pressure regulator with a gauge? 2.5/ 3.0 lbs is max for an IDF
also, do you have heat to your manifold? if not, & the weather is turning cooler where you live,, that could start to give you tuning problems
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
kyle_pc_75
Samba Member


Joined: November 26, 2008
Posts: 511
Location: Park City, UT, USA
kyle_pc_75 is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had similar conditions suddenly occur when I got a bit of crap in an air passage in my carb. 34 Pict-3, but could be a similar problem.

Kyle
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Ed Carp
Samba Member


Joined: July 22, 2008
Posts: 213
Location: sonora california
Ed Carp is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it is getting hot it is probably running to lean, fuel cools the cylinder. at least that what ive been told, be careful you'll end up burning a piston. ramblings of a mechanic.
_________________
1969 money pit, i mean baja.
chenoworth look alike sand rail
i believe bugpack rail?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
baja5
Samba Member


Joined: February 28, 2004
Posts: 4326
Location: Ramona,Ca.
baja5 is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you are running Lean more than rich, Rich mixtures cause the combustion chamber to cool, not heat up. Also, from what you said about the pump, they are noisey when they aren't pumping and running dr y, they quiet down when they pump.I have never seen a fuel pump Over pump fuel, especially if your needle and seat are working properly. I would definately check the Carb but make sure the Idle jets and emulsion tubes are clear. You may have other issues though..
_________________
http://www.wix.com/baja5s/nightrun
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
tundrawolf
Samba Member


Joined: February 24, 2009
Posts: 1384
Location: RIP Mishomi my friend. I will always love you.
tundrawolf is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Carp wrote:
if it is getting hot it is probably running to lean, fuel cools the cylinder. at least that what ive been told, be careful you'll end up burning a piston. ramblings of a mechanic.


That's 100% true. If it is running hot, it is running lean. Look at your spark plugs.. Black and sooty=rich, white=lean, brown=good. Unless you are running rich AND your ignition timing is wayyyyy off that could cause a hot condition too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
k4t00m
Samba Member


Joined: September 11, 2009
Posts: 2
Location: California
k4t00m is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply guys. I'll pull the plugs and take a look at those. Maybe that will give me an idea as to what is going on. I guess I'll pull the carb off too and give it a good cleaning and see if that helps anything. I don't think the timing is off. The engine runs great other than burning my powder coat and spitting out a bunch of black soot.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
tundrawolf
Samba Member


Joined: February 24, 2009
Posts: 1384
Location: RIP Mishomi my friend. I will always love you.
tundrawolf is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's really weird. Look at your plugs for sure, but it sounds like a carburetor malfunction. Check your float level. Also, how long have you been running that powdercoat? If not for very long, you could just be getting a hot spot so to speak..
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> HBB Off-Road All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.