fuel injection for non competition

jashv

Was poking around the CB Performance website today because a buddy told me they sell a good FI setup. Before I was looking for something like what came on the Mexibeetles. All the kits from CB have either the term "High Performance" or "Competition/Ultra Competition". Does anyone sell a kit that says "Great for your 1776 Daily Driver" ? I don't mean to muddle terms, but I just have the pistons and jugs, everything else (valves, heads, exhaust) is stock (dual quiet pack muffler). I want the dependability of FI without the hassle of adjusting a carb. Anyone from CB, please feel free to post back and give me some pointers, thanks !!!

The Noof · Samba Member Joined: January 25, 2005 Posts: 4346

For a STOCK engine, the factory efi was pretty good in it's time, but it's considered rudimentary by todays standards.It was quite reliable after it evolved for a couple of years.If you're handy, and have access to a donor car,the conversion isn't too tough.
As for CB's kit, it is more performance oriented.Can be adapted and made to work, but i wouldn't on a stock engine.
Best might be to use stock hardware, but use the megasquirt ecu,but it isn't for beginners.

Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:31 am Post subject:

Definitely Megasquirt!
It's been around long enought that there's a been a lot of VW people that have adopted.
You can get a good set point for fuel maps.
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jashv · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:45 am Post subject:

So something like this: ?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=612604

DarthWeber · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:45 am Post subject:

There are other options:

http://www.redlineweber.com/SEMA2002/fuel_injection.htm

http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?name=Programmable%20Fuel%20Injection&cPath=9

Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:52 am Post subject:

jashv · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:56 am Post subject:

Sadly there is no feedback on that seller Sad

That price is better then the redline system, that one is over $2k I believe.

Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject:

Well, the items that he lists for the kit look like the same stuff you'd piece together for an aircooled Type 1.
If I was closer to my engine build, I'd have to carefully consider it.
No feedback doesn't necessarily mean bad feedback.
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jashv · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:43 pm Post subject:

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miniman82 · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject:

Mario is a good guy, I wouldn't hesitate to get something from him.
As for the raging debate? Everyone knows FI is better than carbs, some are just too stuck in their ways to admit it to themselves. Laughing

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Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject:

Eaallred · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject:

Megasquirter here too. Best bang for the buck IMHO.

The kit Mario is listing looks good, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase from him. He may not be selling for a long time on Samba, but he has been around the EFI forums for a long time. In my opinion, he's solid and trustworthy.
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MinamiKotaro · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject:

If you think you want to go EFI, quit thinking.

Just do it!

I'll never go back to carbs or distributors. Yuck!
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jashv · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject:

I talked it over with the wife, she's going to let me blow the money, I have a 68 squareback that I'm going to start parting out with hopes of having the money before spring 2010. I hope to upgrade the dizzy with something like a MSD setup, so no points or timing to screw with. Just oil changes and valve adjustments Cool

Eaallred · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:03 pm Post subject:

jashv · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject:

What is crankfire ?

miniman82 · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject:

jashv · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject:

dang, slam...... Sorry, I only got the book learning and know what you mean now. I was thinking like CompuFire, and maybe CrankFire was some odd brand I'd never heard of. I don't know your funky slang terms.

Buck Naked · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject:

luv the idea of runnig an EFI and or EDIS/crank fire system, but i am worried about programing the inital timing and fuel curve maps. are any of these kits available with correct maps or are they jst generic it should run bit dont try any real driving as you will smoke your motor. IS THERE ANY PLAIN ENGLISH READING to explain how to program them. i just dont want spend all the money and find out I cant program it myself or worse have to pay thru the nose now and if i do any upgrades later. motor is stock right now but will be built up later
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