Race Bus / Fast Bus / Sleeper Bus **Info & Idea Thread

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Not surprisingly, a search on Samba nets zero results when AEM EMS-4 and Haltech Platinum 1000 information is researched.

These are two of the more popular standalone ECU's across the automotive board currently on the market.

Even NASCAR will soon be getting rid of carburetors.

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AEM EMS-4

1.) The computer is Universal, meaning it can run any 4cyl engine including a car engine or a motorcycle engine, or a snow mobile, or a wave runner, jet ski, etc.

2.) Since its universal, you will need to wire it into your harness. You have 3 options here:
a.) There is a "plug n pin" harness that comes with a connector and pins. You can either cut your factory ecu connector off and pin your factory harness wires into this connector. Or you can buy an ecu extension jumper harness that normally goes between your factory harness connector and your factory ecu, and just cut the ecu connector off and pin the jumper harness wires into the AEM connector, allowing you to remove the entire system easily if you want to go back to stock ecu. (this way doesnt molest your stock harness)
b.) There is also a 96" Long Universal Full Wiring Harness complete with Fuse Block and Main Relay if you want to do a complete custom install that will totally replace your factory engine harness. This could be good for you guys who want to do a wire tuck, or maybe your factory harness is just in poor condition and you want to start fresh...
c.) The last option might be the easiest. We will be offering plug and play adapter harnesses that connect your factory wiring harness to the AEM EMS4 allowing you to effortlessly install the ecu into your car in minutes. We will also include base maps for you to start and run the engine well enough to get you to your local tuner.

3.) This ecu is based off the same framework as the popular AEM Series2 Plug n Play ECU's so it uses the same AEM Tuner software (and the newest version is very easy to work with)

4.) This ECU controls 4 Ignition Outputs and 4 Fuel Outputs, so it can only run a 4 cylinder, but it also has User Configurable PWM Outputs that can be used for:
Boost Control
Knock Control
Idle Control
Nitrous Control (Also works with Water/Meth Injection)

5.) It has 8 User configurable inputs or outputs

6.) It recognizes both MAG and HALL cam and crank sensors so you wont have any problems using one of these on these cars.

7.) It has 8mb of Internal Logging so you can data log internally without having a laptop hooked up, and review it later on your computer.

8.) All of the harness options come with pre-installed USB Communication ports, and CAN ports for data communication. That means you wont need to use an oldschool serial port laptop to tune the ecu.

9.) The case of the EMS4 is small, lightweight, compact, weatherproof, etc.


Source - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2125400&highlight=ems+4




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Haltech Platinum 1000

High Performance Fuel and Ignition ECU
With 8 channels capable of controlling injection and ignition duites, the Platinum Sport 1000 can support most modern engines (including 2 rotor engines) with multi-coil or conventional distributor ignition systems as well as aftermarket CDI systems.

It is capable of controlling sequential injection on engines up to 4 cylinders, or semi-sequential up to 8 cylinders, combined with direct fire ignition for engines up to 4 cylinders or wasted spark ignition on engines up to 8 cylinders.

Features:
•8 additional user-definable auxillary inputs
•Up to 9 additional user-definable auxillary outputs (Depending on configuration)

Features and user-definable outputs available as standard include, but are not limited to:
•Fully user-definable 32 x 32 mapping ( Up to 1024 points)
•Wideband “Auto tuning” using user definable target AFR table
•Narrow and Wideband closed loop O2 control
•Staged injection control for multiple injectors per cylinder (inc rotary)
•3D mapped rotary engine ignition split
•Soft and hard cut rev limiter
•EGT fuel correction
•Tuning via TPS with manifold pressure correction
•Dual map switching for fuel/ign/boost
•Anti-lag (Rally and Launch style)
•Rotational idle
•Launch Control
•VTEC cam timing control
•VANOS cam control (intake cam only)
•True variable cam control supporting late model Toyota’s, WRX’s and EVO’s
•Dual intake runner control
•Onboard 2.5 BAR MAP sensor (or use with external MAP up to 10 BAR)
•Custom sensor calibration (Use your own sensors for temps or fuel/oil pressure etc)
•Open or closed loop boost control ( Road speed, RPM or gear based mapping)
•Closed loop idle control (Stepper motor and BAC type)
•Extra injector control
•Thermo-fan control ( Duty cycle or on/off )
•Intercooler fan/spray
•Alternator control (Mazda
•Engine control relay function
•Nitrous switching with fuel / ignition correction
•Staged shift lights
•Aux fuel pump control
•Tacho output (5v,8v,12v)
•Turbo timer
•Torque converter lock up
•Air con request idle up
•Windows 2000, XP, Vista compatible software
•”In the field” updatable Firmware provides all the new features as soon as they are available
•Onboard and laptop data logging with Data Viewer software
•USB communication with laptop/PC
•CAN Bus port for direct plug in communication with Racepak and Aim Dash system

Typical Applications:
• Control of fuel injection on modified engines
• Conversion from carburetion to fuel injection
• Race and rally applications of all description
• Design and development purposes
• Educational use by universities and technical colleges
• Original equipment in cars and motorcycle

Source - http://www.haltech.com/index.php/product/platinum-sport-series/the-platinum-sport-1000





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[Snoop Bob]

Nice. Thanks for posting those ecu vids and links.
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[kuleinc]

How does one go about keeping head temps down with a turbo type1 motor in a split window?

Even in my bay window a stock motor approaches 400 degrees at speeds of 55 MPH.

Are you turbo bus guys even using CHT gauges? If so what brand? What readings are you getting at what speeds? What kind of motors and what kind of head temps? Where are your senders located?
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Pikes Peak Hill Climb




Since 1916




Altitude ~ 14,110 Feet






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Divisions

1 - Open Wheel
2 - Pikes Peak Open
3 - Super Stock Car
4 - Unlimited
5 - Exhibition
6 - Time Attack
7 - Electric Division
8 - RMVR (Rocky Mountain Vintage Racing)
9 - Vintage
10 - Sidecar
11 - 250-1205cc
12 - Quad Modified
13 - Exhibition Powersport




"Spencer Penrose of Colorado Springs realized early the tourist potential of Pikes Peak near Colorado Springs. In 1915 Penrose finished converting the narrow carriage road to the summit of the 14,110-foot mountain into the Pikes Peak Highway. In order to publicize his adopted hometown and his new road, he devised a simple plan - run an automobile race to the summit of Pikes Peak on the new highway.
The first Pikes Peak Auto Hill Climb was held August 10- 12, 1916.
Through the years the road has been widened, now paved, but for the most part the course and race format have not changed significantly from the original. Drivers and cars came from all over the world to compete in one of the most grueling courses known to the world of racing. Consisting of 12.42 miles of surface with 156 turns, the race concludes at the peak’s 14,110 foot summit.
Now, almost 100 years later, men and women from across the globe gather every summer in their continuing effort to “conquer Pikes Peak.” The race is now the second-oldest in America behind the Indianapolis 500." ~ PPIHC






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"The Pikes Peak International Hill Climb (PPIHC), also known as The Race to the Clouds, is an annual automobile and motorcycle hillclimb to the summit of Pikes Peak in Colorado, a distance of 19.99 km (12.42 mi) over 156 turns, climbing 1,439 meters (4,721 ft) from the start at Mile 7 on Pikes Peak Highway at 2,862 meters (9,390 ft) on grades averaging 7% over historically both gravel and paved sections, however as of August 2011, the highway is fully paved and as a result all subsequent runnings will be on tarmac from start to finish.
The race is on the FIA International Events Calendar and has featured competition from United States rally sanctioning body SCCA ProRally in 2004 and Rally America in 2005. It has taken place since 1916 and is currently contested by a variety of classes of Cars, Trucks, Motorcycles and Quads. There are often numerous new classes tried and discarded year-to-year. On average there are 150 competitors." ~Wikipedia




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Next Race ~ 7.8.12


http://www.usacracing.com/ppihc






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[JustBuggy]

Now THAT was a wicked ride!

I watched the driver shifting and the shift pattern was like that of a motorcycle. It shifted single gate straight forward and back, no sideways motion. What transmission does that car use?

[Slow Steve]

Sweeet. Another race I didn't know about. I'll be sure to keep up with this one. Thanks for posting, GREAT story of drive out.
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100 years from now when they have reverse atom regeneration attractor technology perfected and in a hand held back yard mechanic's price range, someone will dig up this thread and go, "What were those guys thinking? The whole thing was all there just waiting to be re-atomized. Funny how easily they cut them up back then."
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72 914
65 13w Deluxe
60 Ragtop

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^ 27 years ago.

13 window - 9:21

15 window running a 15.2 - 11:05

^ Miller Diversion 180 TIG for building your Race Bus.

115 or 220 V with the latest Inverter Technology.



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Braille ridiculously light (11.5 lbs) Racing battery. (There are several models)

^ vs conventional.



The Spec B14115 battery by Braille Auto is used by racers all over the world in the FIA WRC, FIA Formula Racing, Speed World Challenge Series, SCCA ProRally Series, SCCA Regional and National Racing, NASA Touring Cars, NIRA, NOPI and Battle of the Imports Drag Racing Series. The Spec B14115 is also perfect for daily street use. Braille developed the B14115 to excel at racing and to easily power street vehicles equipped with A/C, stereos and power accessories.


The B14115 features an industry leading energy to weight ratio. Enhanced Mat Technology (more surface area on the lead plates) combined with calcium full frame power path grids (increase cranking power), yields over 360 Cold Cranking Amps and 900 Pulse Cranking Amps. With a weight of only11.5 pounds/5.2kg, the B14115 is 10-30 pounds lighter than a standard battery of equal power.


Durability was also designed into the battery. Using high density oxide, braille was able to offer a battery with true deep-cycling ability over the life of the battery. Heavy duty vibration resistant power posts resist cracking and deterioration common to many lightweight batteries used in harsh automotive environments. The B14115 is a sealed unit that can be mounted in any position safely using its adjustable automotive terminal posts.


Specifications:
Weight: 11.5 lbs
Length: 5.8
Width: 3.4
Height: 5.8
Pulse Cranking Amps: 904
Cranking Amps: 486
Cold Cranking Amps: 360
Amp Hour Rating: 15


Recommended for:

Daily or Race Use in Small to Medium Displacement Motors.
Weekend Track Warriors.
Show Vehicles.
Custom Cars & Vintage Vehicles. No Acid to spill protect your vehicle.




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For those of you who never leave the samba forums...




Yes, it's real.

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[Thomas Pedigo]

That's almost as impressive as the Owner of the Ginger Rogers ranch here in Shady Cove,Oregon. Almost T-boned his $1.8M Bugatti Veyron last summer with my Scab,while he blocked the entry to our local Chevron station parked sideways....Asshole!
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[Gerson]

I have one of those funky G96-96 GT3 trannys for sale right now in the classifieds..

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1300063
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we (klassicfab) make the funky green panels...........

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Elimation of Split Steering Box and Upgrade to Rack & Pinion Steering.



All of the following was done by ssvc member Moler.

All of the ideas, fabrication and photos were done by him and can be seen in full at his build thread (link to his thread at end of this post).

^ MKIII VX Astra manual rack & T25 Bevel Box.

^ Starting point.

^ Starting point.

^ Fabricators words, "Most conversions I’ve seen use 3 UJ’s, but usually between the bevel box and the rack requiring the use of a block bearing. After I’d offered up the bevel box I found I could clear the brake master cylinder by using one between the steering column and bevel box, that way negating the need for the block bearing. These UJ’s are from a 1303 and are usully in one piece, I’ve cut it in half so I could use one either side of the bevel box."

^ In desired position.

^ Will clear master cylinder.

^ Removed bracket from Split box.

^ Bevel box mounted.

^ Shaft position off the U-joint.

^ Donut from T25 column to be used.

^ Trimmed & shaped.

^ Working out the orientation with the VX Vectra UJ mounted to check for clearance.

^ In this position, it clears the master cylinder, cross plate, handbrake cable, clutch cable, and gear shift rod.

^ Rack bracket.

^ Complete.

Owner / Fabricators words, " The steering is light and very responsive, with non of the oversteer I got before. ....WOW what a difference, light responsive steering, NO oversteer (which is taking some getting used to) and a turning circle that isn't the diameter of the moon all in all very pleased."


Moler build link ...

http://www.ssvc.org.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39870&start=480






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[FG1732]

First time this has ever been mentioned on this website.

SPA Quick Release Disconnect


Forget about the $50 junk disconnects as seen in the classifieds & ebay, the SPA Technique steering quick release is the top of the line. Take a couple hours & do your own research as to why before asking stupid questions.


http://www.spatechnique.com/product_pages/page.cfm?cat=8


Install into a Type 1,2,3, 356, 911 or anything with a steering shaft. Installation is simple for the experienced mechanic. If you have no skills, take it to someone who does.

[Sambafraser]

Resto modding I am cool with, but dude WTF? This steering wheel thing is a good example. Normally most people are happy to leave them bolted on, as it is one less thing to go wrong and you have a horn.
The cars I have driven with a removeable steering wheel such as a single seater were simply to cramped to get out without this and only had them because they needed it.
You seem to be coming from the - I have seen this on a forum or a magazine and it looks cool, in sort of the same Burning Man engineering viewpoint this guy has.here

[Sambafraser]

I offer this as a peace offering "This VW bus is powered by a turbocharged Vanagon boxer engine producing roughly 550hp. Everything attached to the engine has been custom built including the manifolds and fluid systems which include an external oil tank for the dry sump and remote pressurized coolant overflow. Apparently he has future plans of switching the gearbox for something sequential and turning up the boost"

[Sambafraser]

Here is driven in the wet

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[JustBuggy]

Next video:

Drift Bus Mania!

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^ "We make a reverse-cut ring & pinion to suit Subaru transmissions and fully remanufactured reverse drive transmissions.

These transmissions can be used with rear-mounted Subaru, VW / Porsche boxer engines for 5 forward gears.

· Add a Subaru engine and 2WD 5 speed transmission to a Beetle, Kombi or Vanagon without cutting the torsion bar.

· Add a Subaru 2WD 5 speed transmission to your aircooled VW motor using an adaptor plate and flywheel (coming soon)

· Add a complete Subaru engine and 4WD transmission / drivetrain to a vehicle.

· Replace your older/broken VW / Porsche 4/5 speed."

Link here - http://www.subarugears.com/index.html

^ www.SubaruGears.com

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[bad dog racing]

Don't necessarily have to reinvent the (Bus) wheel to record World Record Performance.

Record Holder:

Vancouver, Canada to Ensenda, Mexico

Santa Monica Pier, CA to Virginia City, NV

Queen Mary Long Beach, CA to Las Vegas, NV

Statue of Liberty, NY to Ferry Building, San Francisco, CA

Over 107MPH in the 1/4 Mile


All on Stock Suspension including original Gear Reduction Boxes and a good ole' reliable Air Cooled VW Engine. Why amputate proven components?
Guess we do it the hardway with traditional 75 year old technology.


Next up.......

Stock Buses Suck?
We beg to differ.

Your results may vary.
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