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Blaubus Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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oh yeah... thats a good reason. |
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Kirk Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2003 Posts: 5487 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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werksberg wrote: |
It's the samba:wink: |
Thats exactly why it happens. _________________ MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN
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babysnakes Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2008 Posts: 7106
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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EZ Gruv wrote,
"Show me one post in this forum where somebody says 'I had my engine stolen'."
I'm gonna do this mod so I can take my motor out at night and store it in my living room were its safe. |
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guitarcrazee05 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2007 Posts: 85 Location: Battle ground
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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where i live you're "Gay" if you don't drive lifted american muscle... i'm not worried about my engine being stolen |
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Pierre G Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2007 Posts: 1771 Location: New Caledonia
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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dansvans wrote: |
i really cant understand why anyone would criticize this modification. but here it happens |
Again, I would love to have removable apron on ALL my ACVWs. But, on a '72-later bus, you have to cut the chassis number at the only place where it's stamped on the body, making it look like a stolen vehicle. It's that simple.
Otherwise it would be a great mod. _________________ 1976 181/Thing, 1967 fastback, 1973 squareback, 1964 microbus, 1967 Double Cab, 1969 westfalia (currently under resto), 1972 LM1C dune buggy, 1974 jean's bug, 1974 1303 (super beetle, currently under reassembly after new paint). |
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guitarcrazee05 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2007 Posts: 85 Location: Battle ground
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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if your really worried You can just configure the new engine tin and apron to incorporate the old sheet metal with the stamped VIN, it's no different than if it was in a rear end accident and had to be re built. |
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busman78 Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 4520 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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The VIN must be permenently attached to the vehicle, that is why the 71 and earlier bays have it forward of the apron. The dash plate is nothing more than a courtesy plate, the M plate is just that, neither count as verification of VIN. Your motor vehicle department can issue you a special plate with the VIN with certification. A good idea, you never know what you might grow out of.
As for the apron - COOL idea! |
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enjoispammy8 Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2007 Posts: 1984 Location: Long Beach, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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guitarcrazee05 wrote: |
These busses are cool not valuable |
them be fighting words. _________________ 1969 Westy, 1690cc. montana red and cloud white.
1969 Standard Beetle [sold]
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Is there a message here? Enjoy Spammy Ate |
EZ Gruv wrote: |
Way to fuck up some little kids riding in the car next to you. |
hazetguy wrote: |
you need to be doing better drugs. |
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norcalmike Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 4784 Location: Marina, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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enjoispammy8 wrote: |
guitarcrazee05 wrote: |
These busses are cool not valuable |
them be fighting words. |
Thats it! he's off the team |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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So where is the finished product with the appropriate lip for the engine seal? _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
My Photography Page. |
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Patrick199 Samba Member
Joined: June 29, 2006 Posts: 550 Location: Menlo Park, California, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well, for what its worth, I was not criticizing. I was just asking.
Maybe I should not have used the word "hacking."
The reason I asked is because getting the engine into and out of a bus isn't that hard to do. It's a tight squeeze, but most of us have done it without having to use cutting tools.
i am editing this because I just took a closer look at the pictures.
It is most certainly not a hack job and I apologize for using that word earlier today. It is very nice work and a pretty cool modification.
The only reason I question it is because I couldn't do it half as well so cutting the bus seems extreme. Still does, but I apologize for spouting off without looking at your work. _________________ www.teakfurnitureservice.com
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babysnakes Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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If it was posted, I missed it. But didn't VW make the change to allow for more structural integrity in the area? I got rear ended in a '67 Westy and the parallelogram effect took place. |
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Kirk Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2003 Posts: 5487 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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EZ Gruv wrote: |
So where is the finished product with the appropriate lip for the engine seal? |
Ditto-rooni. _________________ MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN
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Blaubus Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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babysnakes wrote: |
If it was posted, I missed it. But didn't VW make the change to allow for more structural integrity in the area? I got rear ended in a '67 Westy and the parallelogram effect took place. |
exactly, it was probably the US regulators who nixed the removeable apron. that in it self qualifies it as a worthwhile modification. |
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Bashr52 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 5666 Location: On an island in VA
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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chazz79 wrote: |
I'm sure this thing is cooling fine without being sealed to anything
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Perhaps I'm missing it, but I don't see that engine being in an enclosed space pushing a brick down the highway |
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melville Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2006 Posts: 1245 Location: Just Outside the Redwood Curtain
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Bashr52 wrote: |
chazz79 wrote: |
I'm sure this thing is cooling fine without being sealed to anything
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Perhaps I'm missing it, but I don't see that engine being in an enclosed space pushing a brick down the highway |
For that matter, the one in my 500 lb motorcycle doesn't even have a fan or shroud. The load on a Bus motor makes all that stuff (tin, fan, SEALS) necessary. _________________ 2000 M Roadster
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Traveling Writer Samba Scribe
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 1112 Location: Florence, Italy
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:11 am Post subject: |
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I dunno, I sort of agree with Pierre. It looks like a bloody fantastic mod, and I wish mine had one. But legal problems scare me! Bus pilots get hassled enough by police (not me personally, but I see the threads, etc all the time). If that is truly the only actual place the vin is legally stamped, and that has to be a part of the body and not removable, I'd think long and hard before I wanted to make my bus look like stolen property, even if I never wanted to sell him. Would you burn your title just because you never intend to sell it?And as much as I say I'll never sell my bus, in this this economy, jobs, poor health care, what do I know? A sickness or financial problem might make that extra 5-10k (or even 20 if otherwise done up right) tied up in the bus really important.
The real question is: How difficult is it to get the DMV to restamp it? Get them to restamp it, the the mod is perfection (with good seals). If not, just jack the bus like everyone else! _________________ Cheers,
Davi
1977 2.0 FI Westy
2011 1200cc Yamaha Super Tenere
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:43 am Post subject: |
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I seem to recall a thread here about 6 months ago where someone could not get title to a bus by their DMV because the numbers had been painted over and were illegible. We had to show him photos where to look.
I am sorry that VW did not include a removable apron on these - even though it does make it easier for a pair of thieves to take the engine. An even be a better mod would be to make it so just the vertical portion of the skirt comes off - that way the engine can dive under it easily when pulling it, and the VIN stays intact. That alone would make it easier to pull the engine. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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The crash tests is why the rear was beefed. as well as the front having a crumple zone. _________________ Peace, Regis |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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EZ Gruv wrote: |
So where is the finished product with the appropriate lip for the engine seal? |
Still waiting... _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
My Photography Page. |
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