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Reckless Amateur Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2009 Posts: 218 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: Cup Holders for Passengers on the Rear Bench Seat? |
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OK, here's the kinda question that comes up over Thanksgiving when you're fiddling around with your trusty Westy. I bought two cup holders from Bus Depot (the fold down kind) so the passengers way in the back wouldn't be slurping their drinks all around. Question is, where to put 'em? The best place would seem to be on the sliding door side right above the armrest (sic). But, if so, what to attach 'em with? Am I drilling into particleboard panel there or is there actual metal that I could bite into? I hate hanging things up and having 'em fall off.
Hey, many thanks in advance. _________________ 91 Bostig-powered Westy (automatic)
Philadelphia, PA |
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Belladonna30c Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2008 Posts: 206 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Reckless,
Are you trying to replace old, broken cupholders, or install ones where none previously existed? _________________ 1986 Weekender, automatic, 2nd owner
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 3990 Location: Maine
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe you should get the biggest drill bit you can find and drill some test holes in the sliding door of yours. At least you'll find out if there's metal behind the panel.
Or take off the inside door panel and see that's probably a bad place to attach a cup holder. What happens when one of your occupants leaves the cup holder in a down position and tries to open that door? Yes, you guessed it! Spilled drink! Just what you were trying to avoid. Oh, not too mention a destroyed cup holder and just maybe a messed up door panel.
I think you could attach one or two on the side of the fridge/stove/sink facing the closet, and be ok? _________________ '15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
What the Westy wants the Westy GETS
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WestyBob Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Cup Holders for Passengers on the Rear Bench Seat? |
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I no longer remember exactly what's behind there but the advice about checking behind the panels first is best.
> You might want to consider alu rivits rather than screws in some circumstances.
> Kids, like dogs, will eventually destroy plastic fold-out cup holders unless closely supervised.
> If your rear bench folds down into a bed, make sure any placement is out of the way of all moving parts.
> You can usually find those same fold-out cupholders at RV stores in your berg. You also may find better (eg. stronger) options there as well. |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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The Carat / Wolfsburgs had the cupholder's on the L/H wall for sure.
I'll have to go and take a look if the R/H side had any placed behind the door on the interior panel.
This placement would be the better place--I think I would forget about hanging one on the sliding door.
One time left open--bonk--it would be off. _________________ T.K. |
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1621 Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2006 Posts: 2174
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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I've got two in those positions. One above and forward of the ashtray. Don't recall if it's into metal or not, but my kids haven't managed to destroy it in three years. You will need to fold it closed to operated the bed, but then you quickly fold it back out.
The other is directly across above the table and folds open with the table in place. _________________ '85 Westy |
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WestyBob Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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1621 wrote: |
but my kids haven't managed to destroy it in three years. |
Ah-h-h, 1621 .... your kids are so kind to your westy |
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erdonline Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2004 Posts: 943 Location: CT
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Cup Holders for Passengers on the Rear Bench Seat? |
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Reckless Amateur wrote: |
on the sliding door side right above the armrest . |
For those of you criticizing the original poster for suggesting he install the cupholder on the sliding door, look again. He may not have worded it the best way, but he did not say on the sliding door itself, but on that side, "right above the armrest." There's no armrest on the door.
Now to answer the question, I have installed mine in that spot, just to the right of the door, above the armrest. I used sheet metal screws, and it was just into the particleboard, but seemed to be secure enough.
Ed in CT _________________ '85 Vanagon Westfalia
'84 Vanagon 7-passenger
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Carats had cupholders???
I've seen two different versions of the carat, one with jumper seats and one like mine with the center bench....no cupholder, dont even see a place for any. |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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The 86 Wolfsburg I had, had 3 of them,and my current 89 has 3.
I have never seen a Carat with a center seat, just two drop seats, and the rear folding bench--
I looked at a Whitestar to buy a couple of years ago--it too had cupholder's--drop seats & table--no center seat.
Maybe it's a geographic option only. (??) _________________ T.K. |
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WestyBob Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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My '87 westy wolfsberg weekender also came with three in the back, all rivited into the painted plastic form typical of that model. Two were broken when I got the rig so I drilled out the rivits and re-rivited in new holders. On another van I installed two holders on the lower inside-facing base of the passenger seat. In this case the backing was metal so I used sheet metal screws. |
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surfinwesty Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Petaluma, California
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:09 am Post subject: |
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"Cup holders in the rear seat"
What a great idea....I am so tired of passengers spilling bear
You guys are genius _________________ Current Love:
"Adobe" 1984 VW Westy w/Subi
Retired:
"Swell Chaser #1" 1980 Westy (in VW Heaven)
"Swell Chaser #2" 1981 Westy (sold to loving family) |
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noganav Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2006 Posts: 1236 Location: San Diego CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:28 am Post subject: |
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I don't think its legal to have an open bear in the car while you're driving |
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Reckless Amateur Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2009 Posts: 218 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Hey thanks for all the advice and advice about bear-tipping.
Yeah, I may not have worded the question clearly, but I was not suggesting sticking the things on the door. Whoops. And, yeah, these are new installs not replacements. Sounds like the above the armrest location might work with a couple sheet metal screws. Any other takers? Thanks. _________________ 91 Bostig-powered Westy (automatic)
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16450 Location: Brookeville, MD
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