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GERMANAIRE Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2007 Posts: 689 Location: BUFORD,GA.
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Wow! Incredible work John Henry , much to learn from here will definitely stay tuned on this thread. Keep up the Great Work! Peter |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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There is a small reinforcement plate under the outriggers that I had to drill off the old ones, media blast, weld through primer, then spot weld on to the outrigger. I have had a spot welder for years, but never used it for much, but it worked great here.
There is a number on the top of the front tranny mount holder on the chassis. It is not the same as the number on the drivers side out rigger. Anyone know what that is? Just a casting number?
I spent an entire 3 hours just fitting up one of the outriggers from Wolfsburgwest tonight. I lot of hammering, fitting, measuring, hammer, test fit, check with the floorpan, etc. The put the fork yoke cover on and see if it interferes, etc. etc. Classic case of you just have to stick with it until it is perfect.
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splitjunkie Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 4092
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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johnshenry wrote: |
There is a small reinforcement plate under the outriggers that I had to drill off the old ones, media blast, weld through primer, then spot weld on to the outrigger. I have had a spot welder for years, but never used it for much, but it worked great here.
There is a number on the top of the front tranny mount holder on the chassis. It is not the same as the number on the drivers side out rigger. Anyone know what that is? Just a casting number?
I spent an entire 3 hours just fitting up one of the outriggers from Wolfsburgwest tonight. I lot of hammering, fitting, measuring, hammer, test fit, check with the floorpan, etc. The put the fork yoke cover on and see if it interferes, etc. etc. Classic case of you just have to stick with it until it is perfect.
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Are you planning on replacing that square weld nut with the correct style? _________________ Chris
You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld |
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usariemen Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1745 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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splitjunkie wrote: |
Are you planning on replacing that square weld nut with the correct style? |
Do you seriously ask?
Why donīt you surprise yourself and crawl under the car with a torch someday and check it out?
To me in such a invisible place it would not matter. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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eurodub Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1321
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Carsten, a nut is easy to replace at this stage and only a minor thing to do.
i tend to agree its just "a nut" but if a correct one is available, why not. _________________ 1960 1200 model 117 deluxe ragtop
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usariemen Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1745 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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A weld nut , letīs say in the trunk, wich you see later.
Sure, OK, that should "look right".
But at that place it will maybe never be seen again. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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No idea about the number on the tranny mount, but here's what my 49's looks like:
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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usariemen wrote: |
A weld nut , letīs say in the trunk, wich you see later.
Sure, OK, that should "look right".
But at that place it will maybe never be seen again. |
It's OK, I value this kind of detail discussion. I will likely never do this level of restoration again. I did just compare the original outrigger to the repro one and the nut is the square, not the round. I will probably get the repro round ones from Mika and weld them in.... _________________ John Henry
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splitjunkie Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 4092
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:15 am Post subject: |
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I was not being a wise ass. I was just pointing out a detail that he might want to address. Considering he just spend all of that time on that little reinforcement plate that "no one will ever see" I though he would like to know now rather then when the pan is finished. John is a detail nut after all. Just trying to help.
Not to take away from Mika, but you can get those weld nuts from WW.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=N114071 _________________ Chris
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:24 am Post subject: |
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splitjunkie wrote: |
............. John is a detail nut after all. .............. |
Ya think!? _________________ John Henry
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bwaz Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 1780
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:26 am Post subject: |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well then it's important to point out that Mika's are M8 and have TWO bumps (for pre 49 cars?) and the WW ones have 4 bumps.
So, which do you need?
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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The originals on my '51 outriggers are definitely 2 spot welds. But they don't have the locating bumps on the backside. Since I can get them quickest, I will probably just get the WW ones. I'll grind the bumps off, MIG fill the dimples in the back, then spot weld them on with 2 welds like the originals.
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Seb67 Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2003 Posts: 1006 Location: New England
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome work as always John.
"I used to think you were crazy but now I can see your nuts." _________________ 1964 Type 1 |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Seb67 wrote: |
"I can see your nuts." |
Really? This is disturbing.
I can see you're nuts !!!?? seems less disturbing. |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Punctuation is everything in the forums............... _________________ John Henry
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mr. warehouse Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2001 Posts: 5001 Location: Nor Cal 707
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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johnshenry wrote: |
Punctuation is everything in the forums............... |
x2
"I need to help my uncle, Jack, off a horse" is way better than, "I need to help my uncle jack off a horse" |
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ZwitterND Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2005 Posts: 1451 Location: Fargo, ND
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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johnshenry wrote: |
Punctuation is everything in the forums............... |
That's very true, you should always be on time. _________________ Bill |
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Keith Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2005 Posts: 3634 Location: Brodheadsville, PA
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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You say '54 was the last year the floor pans were the same pressing as splits, I thought '55 was.
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52 split Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2007 Posts: 150 Location: the best island in the world, vancouver island
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:45 am Post subject: |
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what was the factory way or tool used to install the weld nuts. they did not drill four holes for the bumps and then weld them. some type of press and weld method?at that stage with my car thanks. |
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