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speedygeorge Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2009 Posts: 235 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: How well should heater work |
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I have a 91 Westy with only moderate heat being generated from either heater. My question is how much heat should one expect from from these heaters? I have very good air flow.
I seem to recall driving another westy with much better heat (OK maybe this was in my dreams).
What's the easiest/most common way to improve heating. |
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motelvw Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2005 Posts: 465
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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You should be getting cooked out of there with two heaters. Your thermostat has probably failed open. What does your temp needle say? If it's riding low, change your thermostat. |
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kayakwesty Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2007 Posts: 687 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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I run mine without the blower motors _________________ 1984 Westy 2.0 Jetta ABA Motor/1.8 head converted to auto tranny, with 180,000 on body, 55K on engine and transmission
B.5.5 Passat Wagen with 30v V6-67000 Miles
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markmc90 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2007 Posts: 295 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Same I never turn the fan motor on for my front heat and only run the rear for a few minutes at a time. Even on low it is still too warm. _________________ 87 Syncro |
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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The front and rear heat in my '88 will roast you out of the vehicle.
They work very well. _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
~ Cullen Hightower
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17007 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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What is your ambient temperature? I notice you are up north. Mine will throw enough heat that my wife asks me to turn it down, but ambient is around 50 degrees F. That is without the blower on. On mine, the front heater valve is visible when the glove box is open. Verify the cable is operating the valve and that the in and out hose are too hot to hold on to for long. _________________ ☮️ |
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speedygeorge Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2009 Posts: 235 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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motelvw wrote: |
You should be getting cooked out of there with two heaters. Your thermostat has probably failed open. What does your temp needle say? If it's riding low, change your thermostat. |
Do you mean the engine temp? |
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speedygeorge Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2009 Posts: 235 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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rsxsr wrote: |
What is your ambient temperature? I notice you are up north. Mine will throw enough heat that my wife asks me to turn it down, but ambient is around 50 degrees F. That is without the blower on. On mine, the front heater valve is visible when the glove box is open. Verify the cable is operating the valve and that the in and out hose are too hot to hold on to for long. |
I will check this out, thanks. |
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speedygeorge Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2009 Posts: 235 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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motelvw wrote: |
You should be getting cooked out of there with two heaters. Your thermostat has probably failed open. What does your temp needle say? If it's riding low, change your thermostat. |
Dumb question but where is the thermostat? |
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17007 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yes the engine temp. If the engine is running cool, that is a sure sign the thermostat is stuck open. I was checking my temps this weekend. I see 190F with the heater off. When I turn the heater on, the engine temp drops to 170F and steadily climbs back up to around 190F. The needle hovers just over the LED in the gauge. _________________ ☮️ |
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Williamtaylor33 Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 1545 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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I've driven around when it was in the teens. And with both my heaters on i had to turn the rear heater off after 10-15 minutes. The heat in my westy is better than any other vehicle i've had. _________________ 89 Bostig powered syncro westy |
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motelvw Samba Member
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freshintulsa Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 229 Location: Tulsa, OK
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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This is all relative to the your ambient temperature. Its been in the low teens for HIGHs here last few days, and single digits, to near sub zero in the mornings. THe heaters are just barely enough to keep it warm in there, unless you are driving around for a while. I only drive for maybe 10-20 minutes at a time, and after 20 minutes its just starting to get warm in there. When its in the 30s-40s it deffinitely gets warm quickly, enough to turn the heater motor off. _________________ "go slower, go lower!!!"
85 westy svx
Fresh front end rebuild
Front cab changed from brown to black with new homemade door panels, etc.
Soon to remove fridge/sink/cabinet and make custom bench seat!!!
89 wolfsburg/ bluestar.... finished the stick to automatic conversion,
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justcairns Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hardly ever run the heater fans.Will cook you out of the van. |
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carterzest Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 3842 Location: Eagle, ID/Sun Valley, ID
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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freshintulsa wrote: |
This is all relative to the your ambient temperature. Its been in the low teens for HIGHs here last few days, and single digits, to near sub zero in the mornings. THe heaters are just barely enough to keep it warm in there, unless you are driving around for a while. I only drive for maybe 10-20 minutes at a time, and after 20 minutes its just starting to get warm in there. When its in the 30s-40s it deffinitely gets warm quickly, enough to turn the heater motor off. |
my experiences in the colder weather are the same. Its been in the low 30s in Portland and I drive @ 15 miles each way to work. Pulling off the freeway with both heaters blasting 100%, I turn off the rear heater and the van is almost warm enough to unzip. I should really quit smoking so I do not have to leave a window cracked! _________________ Happiness=Portland, Oregon in the rearview mirror! |
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dubstar Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2009 Posts: 1437 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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no matter how cold it is outside, my front heater is blazing...hardly ever use the blower...rear failed about 2 years ago
"The needle hovers just over the LED in the gauge."
that's where mine usually is...I watch it like a hawk LOL...maybe a new radiator this winter _________________ 1963 Type II Kombi
1977 Type I Fuel Injection
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speedygeorge Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2009 Posts: 235 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I just started to take the bolts off to get at the thermostat and liquid started to come out, what is this and what do I need to do to get thermostat out other then undoing bolts? Help! |
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shadetreemech Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2005 Posts: 777 Location: Claremont, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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speedygeorge wrote: |
I just started to take the bolts off to get at the thermostat and liquid started to come out, what is this and what do I need to do to get thermostat out other then undoing bolts? Help! |
The liquid is coolant. That's normal. Once you expose the thermostat just pull it out with your fingers. Make note of its orientation.
_________________ '84 GL 1.9
'01 Volvo V70 T5
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ajdenette Samba Member
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10347 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: How well should heater work |
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speedygeorge wrote: |
I have a 91 Westy with only moderate heat being generated from either heater. My question is how much heat should one expect from from these heaters? I have very good air flow.
I seem to recall driving another westy with much better heat (OK maybe this was in my dreams).
What's the easiest/most common way to improve heating. |
Granted I'm running a different engine, but since I have a near new cooling system, to give you some kind of point of reference of what a new cooling system will do....
During this recent cold spell here on the mainland, (below 0* C) I've been getting good heat (in spite of the "hole" near the heater hoses! ) i.e. not so hot that I can't hold my hand at foot heat outlet, but it's certainly almost literally hot.
This is in Vancouver B.C.
Hope that helps.
Neil.
Edit: and this is w/o insulation on heater hoses.
"hole" (though it's been covered a little)
_________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
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