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thebucket Samba Stockbroker
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PANZERVW Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Besides the mounting bolt changes from early through late oval up to the 58-60 hood is there a width change for the front of the hood where the locking mechanism is or latch? |
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Boom Samba Member
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FlexMyFoil 58' Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2010 Posts: 47 Location: West Sussex, UK
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Could some one please confirm what year hood this one is..
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Suboval Samba Member
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Late 55 thru 56. _________________ It all works on paper.
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PASHN8 Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2011 Posts: 152 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hi guys,
Does anyone make a reproduction piece of JUST the triangle brace plate itself?
Kaefer Nostalgie advertise one, but it looks incorrect and has 3 holes, whereas i'm sure my rusty triangle has only 2 holes that the badge tabs come through?
KN's part:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=987716
The holes also look far too small, but could be just the photo when compared to OE:
_________________ www.dinography.com.au - Dino!
1957 11-Window Split Bus
1954 3-fold Sunroof Oval Beetle
*** Looking for '56 Porsche T1 356A 1300 engine no. 22373 *** |
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joshbuchan Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2007 Posts: 712 Location: victoria bc canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:17 am Post subject: |
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That has to be the simplest panel ever to make....why would you bother buying one? |
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PASHN8 Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2011 Posts: 152 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Time is not a luxury that we all have, so was simply checking to see if there was a more economically viable option _________________ www.dinography.com.au - Dino!
1957 11-Window Split Bus
1954 3-fold Sunroof Oval Beetle
*** Looking for '56 Porsche T1 356A 1300 engine no. 22373 *** |
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bigbulli Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2000 Posts: 575 Location: ENGLAND
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Great thread, thanks _________________ 1954 Barndoor
1955 Oval |
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gforcepdx Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2008 Posts: 153 Location: portland,oregon
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:08 am Post subject: |
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valentinesr wrote: |
FRK wrote: |
sneal1956 wrote: |
I need to find a 4 tab and 4 bolt for a 1956 Oval. (although doesnt the picture above labelled 56 - 57 4 bolts also show 5 bolts? er confused)
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Well, that's why I typed 4 bolts. '56-'57 is definally 4 bolts. |
Frank,
I think he was talking about the hood that I have. You listed it as 56-57 4 Bolt, but theres 5 Bolts..
*Which I will be selling, cause I need a correct hood. |
I'm looking for identification points specific to 1957. so far I'm looking for a 4 tab emblem, no bracing at the lower corners, and now a five bolt mounting pattern? that leaves me with 2 questions.
1) are there any other variations to the 57 hood?
2) can you explain the need for an odd number of bolts? do you have a photo showing this odd bolt pattern mounted to the hinge?
thank you... j _________________ yes... I'm the one who destroyed this fine, vintage, automoble... |
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Suboval Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:47 am Post subject: |
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gforcepdx wrote: |
valentinesr wrote: |
FRK wrote: |
sneal1956 wrote: |
I need to find a 4 tab and 4 bolt for a 1956 Oval. (although doesnt the picture above labelled 56 - 57 4 bolts also show 5 bolts? er confused)
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Well, that's why I typed 4 bolts. '56-'57 is definally 4 bolts. |
Frank,
I think he was talking about the hood that I have. You listed it as 56-57 4 Bolt, but theres 5 Bolts..
*Which I will be selling, cause I need a correct hood. |
I'm looking for identification points specific to 1957. so far I'm looking for a 4 tab emblem, no bracing at the lower corners, and now a five bolt mounting pattern? that leaves me with 2 questions.
1) are there any other variations to the 57 hood?
2) can you explain the need for an odd number of bolts? do you have a photo showing this odd bolt pattern mounted to the hinge?
thank you... j |
It should be four bolt and NOT five bolt.
57 Horizon blue Oval
Note the four drain holes - two on the back bracing and one on each hinge support. _________________ It all works on paper.
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gforcepdx Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2008 Posts: 153 Location: portland,oregon
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Bonnets / Hoods |
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ok, this makes much better sense to me. the odd number bolt count didn't seem right, and I can see that the other holes are indeed there for drainage. that was another point I found confusing.
I'm looking at a 57 ragtop this weekend and trying to ID things I'll need to correct. can you tell me about the fenders I see in this image as well?
from the reading I've done this week it seems 56 was the last year for semaphore turn signals. then in 57 they went over to the bullets, and then in 58 or 60 they put the teardrop signals on top of the fenders.
it's the bullets that I found confusing. I'd thought they were specific to European import. but when I go looking for replacement fenders they come with bullet signals.
are bullet signals specific to the 57 only in America? _________________ yes... I'm the one who destroyed this fine, vintage, automoble... |
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Suboval Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Bonnets / Hoods |
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gforcepdx wrote: |
ok, this makes much better sense to me. the odd number bolt count didn't seem right, and I can see that the other holes are indeed there for drainage. that was another point I found confusing.
I'm looking at a 57 ragtop this weekend and trying to ID things I'll need to correct. can you tell me about the fenders I see in this image as well?
from the reading I've done this week it seems 56 was the last year for semaphore turn signals. then in 57 they went over to the bullets, and then in 58 or 60 they put the teardrop signals on top of the fenders.
it's the bullets that I found confusing. I'd thought they were specific to European import. but when I go looking for replacement fenders they come with bullet signals.
are bullet signals specific to the 57 only in America? |
Semaphores were still being put on Beetles upto 1962 for the home (Germany) market. Late 1955 Exports to the USA were the start of the bullet turn signals - depending on who you ask. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=496830&highlight=1955+turn+signals
There are few good Threads about bullet fenders.
Here are a few:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=448426
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=635843&highlight=bullet+fender
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=295256&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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jays58s Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2004 Posts: 2133 Location: Nor-Cal
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:11 am Post subject: Re: Bonnets / Hoods |
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The early 4 bolt 4 tab hood was used from 1956-October of 1958. From November 1st of 1958-December or so of 1960 used the last style of the 4 tab. |
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TSLAVO Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:26 am Post subject: Re: Bonnets / Hoods |
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I bought an used hood for my 57 oval. It looks correct 56-57 hood with 4 tabs, hood badge slots, 4 bolts however i noted some minor differences. Are they from difference year?
Top is my original, bottom is the replacement. Original with (drain?) holes, replacement with spot weld marks.
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jays58s Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:35 am Post subject: Re: Bonnets / Hoods |
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TSLAVO wrote: |
I bought an used hood for my 57 oval. It looks correct 56-57 hood with 4 tabs, hood badge slots, 4 bolts however i noted some minor differences. Are they from difference year?
Top is my original, bottom is the replacement. Original with (drain?) holes, replacement with spot weld marks.
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That style was used through October of '58, and that other hood looks like an aftermarket replacement. I've seen a few like that and a few things on them just don't look quite right. |
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TSLAVO Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:33 am Post subject: |
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FRK wrote: |
Late ’53 to the end of ’54 Hood is just like the ’55 but with the triangle.
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From the previous post, some earlier hood looks similar without holes but spot weld at corner. |
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Zvonimir1985 Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2015 Posts: 135 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:53 am Post subject: Re: Bonnets / Hoods |
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Hi guys!
Can anyone tell what year is this? Thanks!
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janerick3 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Bonnets / Hoods |
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The original color under the hinges appears to be L451 Indian Red, a 1960-only color. _________________ Thanks,
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Zvonimir1985 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Bonnets / Hoods |
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The original color is agava green and the hood was on 55 beetle. These are the words of the seller. I havent seen the hood in person. _________________ Proud to be Croat! |
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