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Ronny Bailey Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2009 Posts: 467 Location: North Zulch, TX
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| millerje78 wrote: | | thanks! I love it, only wish I would have built it bigger! isn't that always the case though. the best thing I did was putting in-floor heat in there. concrete stays nice and warm. | Holy Canoli A garage with a heated floor? Rock on!
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 2526 Location: Holmes County, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Ronny Bailey wrote: | | millerje78 wrote: | | thanks! I love it, only wish I would have built it bigger! isn't that always the case though. the best thing I did was putting in-floor heat in there. concrete stays nice and warm. | Holy Canoli A garage with a heated floor? Rock on!
My garage/shed makes the Unabomber's shack look like Bill Gates' house.  |
haha. for some reason, having a heated floor doesn't make me any better at restoring volkswagens.  _________________ always seeking a better way
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flierbob Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2008 Posts: 528 Location: Silverdale WA
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:34 am Post subject: |
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I got some donor windows from a super bug and thought I might use the doors but the trim line is higher then the 69 Bug I have. It looks like your doors are from a standard Bug.
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 2526 Location: Holmes County, Ohio
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| flierbob wrote: | I got some donor windows from a super bug and thought I might use the doors but the trim line is higher then the 69 Bug I have. It looks like your doors are from a standard Bug.
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well thats strange then. I wonder if there were changes in trim location sometime between 68 and 73?? maybe my drivers door is from a super beetle? _________________ always seeking a better way
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forkzilla Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2009 Posts: 154 Location: North Central Ohio
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:14 am Post subject: |
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next issue...this bolt is stuck and I mean it. the 17mm no longer fits its so deteriorated. any suggestions?
Weld a large nut on top of it, from the inside of the threads. The heat will help break it loose and after it cools, heat the cast steel around where the bolt threads in and it should come off. Sometimes I weld a large flat washer to the rounded off bolt head, and then weld a nut around the outside to the washer to get stuck bolts out. You can also weld a washer and then a nut to a bolt with the head broken off, and this usually will get them out. |
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Fattie I'd roll it

Joined: November 27, 2005 Posts: 5555 Location: louisiana
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| PatterBon wrote: | Very nice project! Glad to see another 73 getting the attention it deserves, good luck with it and I look forward to seeing how it turns out!  |
what he said...
BTW:
PO's suck
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air_cooled75 Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 362 Location: Lancaster, PA
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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yeah you can definitely replace that rusted wheel well with the body on the pan. we replaced most of the entire rear driver side clip and wheel well from where it was hit back in 2003
actually i dont even think we ever took the wheel off and i think it turned out really nicely |
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 2526 Location: Holmes County, Ohio
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Fattie wrote: | | PatterBon wrote: | Very nice project! Glad to see another 73 getting the attention it deserves, good luck with it and I look forward to seeing how it turns out!  |
what he said...
BTW:
PO's suck
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yeah, but there again, I have been "that guy" before too that hacked a bug up for the next guy.
I suppose rather than trying to relocate the holes in my door I will seek a donor door with accurate hole placement. I hate to do that though, its such a nice door, all the rubber is nice and the scrapers are pristine. maybe I'll just live with it...wait...no I won't. It'll bug me everytime I look at it.  _________________ always seeking a better way
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 2526 Location: Holmes County, Ohio
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| forkzilla wrote: | next issue...this bolt is stuck and I mean it. the 17mm no longer fits its so deteriorated. any suggestions?
Weld a large nut on top of it, from the inside of the threads. The heat will help break it loose and after it cools, heat the cast steel around where the bolt threads in and it should come off. Sometimes I weld a large flat washer to the rounded off bolt head, and then weld a nut around the outside to the washer to get stuck bolts out. You can also weld a washer and then a nut to a bolt with the head broken off, and this usually will get them out. |
Success!! while I didn't use the method described above, I appreciate the new ideas you guys give me. I wound up spraying it with PB Blaster last night, then this afternoon I beat a notch into the bolt head with a chisel. heat with propane torch,pound the shit out of it, repeat. it finally gave up and came out without breaking on the third cycle. _________________ always seeking a better way
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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thats some fine work there, air cooled75. looks like you really got into something there before it was all said and done.  _________________ always seeking a better way
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flierbob Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2008 Posts: 528 Location: Silverdale WA
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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The newer doors have a reinforcing piece inside behind the window also, side crash protection. That may be why they moved the trim line.
Get the holes welded shut and put new holes in for the trim. Good luck with the project.
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| flierbob wrote: | The newer doors have a reinforcing piece inside behind the window also, side crash protection. That may be why they moved the trim line.
Get the holes welded shut and put new holes in for the trim. Good luck with the project.
Bob |
easy for you to say, you can probably weld far better than I can.  _________________ always seeking a better way
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flierbob Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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I use the grinder a lot.
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 2526 Location: Holmes County, Ohio
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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got a little work done today.
cut out that rusted body mount and the surrounding area as well. I also wrestled that pesky bolt out of its nest. while I was in there, I removed the shock as well. figured I'd never have as good of a view as I have right now without that body mount panel in the way.
a close up of my victory over that body mount bolt.
replacement panel mocked up. I still have a little grinding to get it just right before I weld it in. what is that little hole with the two bolts around it for? _________________ always seeking a better way
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rustfree1967bug Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2006 Posts: 3017 Location: minnesota
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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That hole with the studs are for the z-bar that came on '67-68 bugs. What year is your replacement panel from? or is it new _________________ '70 std bug (daily driver)
'66 sunroof ( show car)
'74 bus
'66 so-42
'67 so-42
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| rustfree1967bug wrote: | | That hole with the studs are for the z-bar that came on '67-68 bugs. What year is your replacement panel from? or is it new |
its a new danish piece of sheet metal. nice quality I might add. should stiffen things up nicely back there. now we'll see if I know how to weld. pretty sure I don't. _________________ always seeking a better way
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rustfree1967bug Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah iv'e never welded either. I keep telling myself one of these days i'll find a project that i'll learn to weld on. It just scares me though _________________ '70 std bug (daily driver)
'66 sunroof ( show car)
'74 bus
'66 so-42
'67 so-42
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| rustfree1967bug wrote: | | Yeah iv'e never welded either. I keep telling myself one of these days i'll find a project that i'll learn to weld on. It just scares me though |
well we're going to find out tomorrow afternoon when I get home. hopefully I don't screw it up too badly. _________________ always seeking a better way
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millerje78 Samba Amishman

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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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I worked on the bug a little today. I welded in the replacement panel for the one I cut out yesterday, which I will not post pictures of. I am EMBARRASSED at the ugliness of my welding. it aint pretty but its solid.
I took out the pedal cluster as well. the pin(bolt) that holds the accelerator pedal on is seized. the brake pedal bushing is sloppy, and the clutch cable hook is showing wear and tear. should I just replace it? does anyone rebuild these?
also, I am STRUGGLING to get the driver side rear axle nut to come loose. any suggestions? do I need an impact? _________________ always seeking a better way
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vwbud1973 Samba Member

Joined: April 24, 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Flanders, NJ
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| an impact gun is a must have for a job like that in my opinion. I put a lot of kroil on mine before I tried to mess with it at all... put it on a few times a day over about 3 or 4 days, then hit it with an impact gun and after a little bit of protest, it zipped right off. |
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