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pkrboo Samba Member

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VDubTech Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:34 am Post subject: |
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They're both parts on your Bus, whether you need them or not can only be determined by you. The second one is the front bushing on the shift rod. If it were me I would spend the $15 on the complete kit and then you'll have em all. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
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| borninabus wrote: | | a measurement of your rod would be extremely useful. |
| notchboy wrote: | | my dad wasnt a belittling cock when he tought me how to wrench on cars. |
| EverettB wrote: | One photo = good for reference.
10 photos = douchebaggery |
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pkrboo Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:42 am Post subject: |
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thanks.
I need teh first one as it has cracked and i found part of it in the pedal tray.
i just cant figure out where the second one physically goes. i have looked at pictures in other threads.
Does it just push into the end of the rod?
the round one goes around the rod and stabilises the left right motion yeah? _________________ 1979 Sage Green Westfalia P22 |
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busdaddy Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Haven't got a Bentley manual yet eh?
There's a few of those spaced along the shift rod to keep it from touching the inside of the tube, most require removing the engine/trans to replace. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Wanted, 68-73 westy OG plaid curtains, singles OK. |
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GusC2it Samba Member

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pb24ss Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| VDubTech wrote: | | They're both parts on your Bus, whether you need them or not can only be determined by you. The second one is the front bushing on the shift rod. If it were me I would spend the $15 on the complete kit and then you'll have em all. |
I've found the quality of the shuttle cock bushings to be complete crap. They've never fit right, and I've ended up either reusing the old one or having to grind off the nubs as they don't like up with the holes. I wish someone would make a decent replacement part. _________________ 78 P22 Westy |
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pkrboo Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:53 am Post subject: |
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ok now i understand where all the bushings fit, i think.
The pic in the Bentley looks like there is a bushing that pushes into the end of the rod, i think that this is actually the dounut bushing.
Also fig 3-16 makes ni sense to me. I do not have the bit of metal and guide pin, i don't think.
here is a (bad) pic of mine:
 _________________ 1979 Sage Green Westfalia P22 |
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Wildthings Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: |
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The kit should contain the parts you need and maybe some you don't. Using the kit which I think I bought from Bus Depot I could not get the boots to fit over the tubes, the shuffle cocks also didn't fit worth a hoot so got left out and replaced by something home made. I guess when I think about it the only thing that did work was the front bushing. Maybe another brand of kit would work better?
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SGKent Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:58 am Post subject: |
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been here? http://www.ratwell.com/technical/091Transmission.html _________________ Steve aka Merlin the Wrench
formerly Steve's Racing and Engine Blueprinting. Wrenching since 1967.
bdamico on GF wrote | Quote: | | "When I was your age I'd plan out all sorts of stuff for the future and almost none of them came true. Just wonder if it's worth trying to be a crystal ball. " |
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busdaddy Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| pkrboo wrote: | ok now i understand where all the bushings fit, i think.
The pic in the Bentley looks like there is a bushing that pushes into the end of the rod, i think that this is actually the dounut bushing.
Also fig 3-16 makes ni sense to me. I do not have the bit of metal and guide pin, i don't think. |
You are looking at the 68-72 system, it uses a fixed pin and internal bushing, yours uses a grommet that the tube slides into (the one in your first link). _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Wanted, 68-73 westy OG plaid curtains, singles OK. |
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Vwman55 Samba Member

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ned Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| If that bushing kit is 15 bucks its a rip. |
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Vwman55 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:43 am Post subject: |
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I used this thread instead of starting another. I'm asking which are the correct 3 bushings. Going on ratwells info after 75 or so, 3 bushings were used on the rear shift rod. Also a VW bulletin was issued to use a 3rd bushing. Does not look like the "kit" has a complete set of bushings. I was going to buy what I need seperate. Can't tell from the parts pic floating around ether.
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germansupplyscott Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:10 am Post subject: |
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these are what you need for '77-'79. also suitable for a '74-'79 bus but it will have one extra middle bushing.
http://www.germansupply.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=17026
there is a kit that has all the bushings from late split and all bay bus, the quality of some of the bushings in that kit is very poor. the shuttlecock bushings are hit and miss for quality, the last batch we received form the supplier were crap and we returned them, hence this kit is out of stock on our website. the middle bush is repro'd by wolfsburg west (it's used on a split also) and their repro is good. the front middle bush (the stiff shuttlecock one) is only available in one quality level - mediocre. the very front bushing for '68-'73 (under the shifter) is only available in one quality level - crap. front later front (74-79) bushing is good quality. _________________ scott lyons
http://www.germansupply.com
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79campnbus Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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SCOTT - When are you going to have the shift bushing set for 79 in stock? _________________ 1979 VW Westfalia
1974 VW Beetle Sunbug |
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david_594 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| busdaddy wrote: |
You are looking at the 68-72 system, it uses a fixed pin and internal bushing, yours uses a grommet that the tube slides into (the one in your first link). |
This is going to sound really stupid.... But how fixed is that "fixed pin" supposed to be? Mine is just kind of loosely attached to the vertical bracket that supports it causing there to be a ton of play in pretty much everything.
Should I just tack weld it back to the bracket? Making my shifting a million times more accurate? Or is there some other way it should be attached? _________________ 1968 westy weekender
2000 jetta tdi
79 vespa p200e |
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