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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:26 am    Post subject: shift rod bushing Reply with quote

I need this shift rod bushing:

http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=211711182

however this one is also listed:

http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=211711179

where does this one go? do i need it?

for the Bus in my sig.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're both parts on your Bus, whether you need them or not can only be determined by you. The second one is the front bushing on the shift rod. If it were me I would spend the $15 on the complete kit and then you'll have em all.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks.

I need teh first one as it has cracked and i found part of it in the pedal tray.

i just cant figure out where the second one physically goes. i have looked at pictures in other threads.

Does it just push into the end of the rod?

the round one goes around the rod and stabilises the left right motion yeah?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't got a Bentley manual yet eh?

There's a few of those spaced along the shift rod to keep it from touching the inside of the tube, most require removing the engine/trans to replace.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can replace the front donut shaped one by uncoupling the front shift rod. It's the most cridical bushing and will make a world of difference in your joy in life! Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VDubTech wrote:
They're both parts on your Bus, whether you need them or not can only be determined by you. The second one is the front bushing on the shift rod. If it were me I would spend the $15 on the complete kit and then you'll have em all.


I've found the quality of the shuttle cock bushings to be complete crap. They've never fit right, and I've ended up either reusing the old one or having to grind off the nubs as they don't like up with the holes. I wish someone would make a decent replacement part.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok now i understand where all the bushings fit, i think.

The pic in the Bentley looks like there is a bushing that pushes into the end of the rod, i think that this is actually the dounut bushing.

Also fig 3-16 makes ni sense to me. I do not have the bit of metal and guide pin, i don't think.

here is a (bad) pic of mine:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kit should contain the parts you need and maybe some you don't. Using the kit which I think I bought from Bus Depot I could not get the boots to fit over the tubes, the shuffle cocks also didn't fit worth a hoot so got left out and replaced by something home made. I guess when I think about it the only thing that did work was the front bushing. Crying or Very sad Maybe another brand of kit would work better?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

been here? http://www.ratwell.com/technical/091Transmission.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ok now i understand where all the bushings fit, i think.

The pic in the Bentley looks like there is a bushing that pushes into the end of the rod, i think that this is actually the dounut bushing.

Also fig 3-16 makes ni sense to me. I do not have the bit of metal and guide pin, i don't think.


You are looking at the 68-72 system, it uses a fixed pin and internal bushing, yours uses a grommet that the tube slides into (the one in your first link).
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I need three of these to replace all the rear shift rod bushings?
http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=211711179

Or one of the above a 2 of these?
http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=211711185B
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that bushing kit is 15 bucks its a rip.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used this thread instead of starting another. I'm asking which are the correct 3 bushings. Going on ratwells info after 75 or so, 3 bushings were used on the rear shift rod. Also a VW bulletin was issued to use a 3rd bushing. Does not look like the "kit" has a complete set of bushings. I was going to buy what I need seperate. Can't tell from the parts pic floating around ether.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

these are what you need for '77-'79. also suitable for a '74-'79 bus but it will have one extra middle bushing.

http://www.germansupply.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=17026

there is a kit that has all the bushings from late split and all bay bus, the quality of some of the bushings in that kit is very poor. the shuttlecock bushings are hit and miss for quality, the last batch we received form the supplier were crap and we returned them, hence this kit is out of stock on our website. the middle bush is repro'd by wolfsburg west (it's used on a split also) and their repro is good. the front middle bush (the stiff shuttlecock one) is only available in one quality level - mediocre. the very front bushing for '68-'73 (under the shifter) is only available in one quality level - crap. front later front (74-79) bushing is good quality.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SCOTT - When are you going to have the shift bushing set for 79 in stock?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:

You are looking at the 68-72 system, it uses a fixed pin and internal bushing, yours uses a grommet that the tube slides into (the one in your first link).


This is going to sound really stupid.... But how fixed is that "fixed pin" supposed to be? Mine is just kind of loosely attached to the vertical bracket that supports it causing there to be a ton of play in pretty much everything.

Should I just tack weld it back to the bracket? Making my shifting a million times more accurate? Or is there some other way it should be attached?
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