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GeoffP
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject: Orig Manx header Sidewinder questions.. Reply with quote

I also posted this on the Manx forums but I think there is more traffic here on the Samba soo here is go's...

As I restore my 68 Manx I have found slight differences in a few parts and was wondering if anyone can tell me a little about the Manx Header and Glasspack exhaust.

I have a Manx catalog from 69 and it shows the same exhaust as mine but the two differences I can see are that the two "J" pipes on the catalog version and the one I found on the samba both have a smooth radious. Mine has two bends in the "J" pipe (like a t3 jpipe). My question is, did the exhaust change over the years and roughly when? Mine is a small 1 3/8 diam pipe and also has a short glasspack.

Photo from the Samba, look at the smooth radious on the left of the pic (J pipe)

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Mine with double bend J pipes (pic taken before I started to restore it)

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I know that there is a 1 3/8 and 1 .5 size (as well I think the new ones are larger) Mine has the bolt on muffler and many others have a welded style. Anyone know more details?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of three different versions of the Manx Sidewinder, and 2 different tube sizes. I thing the versions must be due to what vendor was the supplier at a given time.

I remember Bruce saying the tube size relates to the engine displacement.

Perhaps if we could compare one out of each lot, we would find even more small differences between each lot.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I was thinking that mine may have been intended for 12-1300cc engines.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to go off topic, but the first picture is MY picture. Someone must have downloaded it and put the Samba name on it. Oh well, I guess that's what you get when you post pix on the Internet!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original Sidewinders did not have bolt on mufflers or sharp bends in the J tube. Neither pictured are are original (pre-1971) B.F. Meyers & Co. Sidewinders. The top picture appears to be a new Meyers Manx Inc. exhaust. The bottom exhaust was made by someones else.

B.F. Meyers & Co. produced different Sidewinders for 36hp engines, 40/50hp engines and Porsche 356 engines.

B.F. Meyers & Co. went out of business in 1971. The biggest change in Sidewinders occured when Meyers Manx Inc. started producing new Sidewinders in the late 90s. Since then there have different suppliers with a variety of detail differences and some with removable mufflers.

Other companies also produced "sidewinder style" exhausts. Tri-Mil still does
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got old magazine ads from '69 showing a system identical to the one in the samba picture made by Mitchell Mfg Inc. of Alhambra Ca.

I'm not sure if they maybe supplied Meyers Manx and sold under their own name too or wether they just made a very similar system.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my Manx with the original Sidewinder (1968). At that time $ 30.40 Very Happy

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This is my new Sidewinder. Bought it July 2009 from Winnie Meyers.
Winnie told me to take the 1.5" because I have a 1600cc dualport.

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1.5" Polished Hot-Jetted
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The top picture appears to be a new Meyers Manx Inc. exhaust."

That's correct. I had purchased it from Winnie in 2002, which is when that picture was taken.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the new new ones currently being sold by the Manx Club is a one piece affair?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'style' offered by Meyers Manx, Inc. today is a 3 piece exhaust system.

2 J pipes and 1 collector with a welded on fiberglass muffler.

Available in 1 5/8" & 1 1/2" either in raw metal or polished ceramic coated.

For further information see: http://www.meyersmanx.com/mmstore/store-exhaust.shtml


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a discount for members, but its not sold by the Manx Club, its sold by Meyers Manx Inc.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my chrome circa 1968 Manx Sidewinder.



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