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1967250s
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| An aside, has anyone used urethane bushings? And what size to look for- 1 7/8" or are any made for Bus-'72? And what do you do for rust on the tube/bushing so it does not wear away the bushing prematurely, aside from applying talc? |
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| And what do you do for rust on the tube/bushing so it does not wear away the bushing prematurely, aside from applying talc? |
I can't answer the Urethane question but definitely sand the bearing surfaces on the torsion arm smooth and shiny, rusty lumps will eat away the new bushing in no time.
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if your doing the spring plate adjustment, put your jackstands under the torsion tube.
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pintail78
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Thanks Stuart, I looked today, that looks best nice and beefy looking. John T.
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| Thanks Stuart, I looked today, that looks best nice and beefy looking. John T. |
it will give you more solid squat with the bus. if you put the stands under the frame rails, when you jack up the spring plates (if you are lifting your bus) then the bus will lift up a LOT easier than you would think. go for those torsion tubes, especially if you are lifting it up.
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Anyone had any problems with the bus lifting up when jacking the spring back up to get it over the lip? I was just going to level the bus and use the torsion bar as jack points. Seems kinda scary if the bus started to lift. Any suggestions or experience.
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If the bus is lifting you have the plates set wrong, are you using a protractor or doing it by "eye"?.
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I havent done it yet, I was going -1 inner and +1 outer to raise it about 1/3 of an inch or 50'. Just a general question, someone had mentioned it and I wondering about other peoples experiences with it lifting off the jack stands.
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When it's set properly you can almost pry it up onto the stop without a jack but one of those little scissor jacks makes it easier, not much load there and it won't lift the bus.
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cool thanks, I like to know what Im doing before I get into it. I appreciate it.
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Just finished the job, heres my take, I have a 68 bus so its a little different than others.
-I had to loosen my parking brake cable, on mine it s easiest just doing it from the cab.
-I had to pull my brake lines off the nub to get more clearance.
-I used anti-seize instead of talcum powder, a buddy of mine owns a VW repair shop locally (for 30 years) and he said it will last longer and work better.
-I adjusted mine to 24 degrees (bentley says 23 50'), I adjusted the drivers side up 1degree, the passenger side was fine as is.
-the silver sharpie wiped off easily and i lost my marks on the first side, i just adjusted it to gets about 1 more degree from original measurements.
-I used a dremel tool to permanently mark original settings on the second side as the sharpie sucked and wiped off.
-The torsion bushings were wasted, i think they give the bus a lot of freeplay when loading and unloading, probably will effect handling, i'll see in the next few days.
-It took my 7 hours total, mainly because i had to pull all the brake stuff off after I took everything else apart, and my silver sharpie marks were wiped off on my first side.
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| I am a first time mechanic and am attempting to return my bus to stock hight.It has been lowered two splines in the past I have managed to strip the rear and understand how it all goes back but on one side the spring plate looks like it stands proud but its back far enough to sit on the step so now im thinking the spring is a bit shorter is this possible? |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks Busdaddy I have just had another look and im sure the torsion bar has gone in a bit far and the spring plate is fully back as it will sit on the step fine. |
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| dames wrote: |
| I am a first time mechanic and am attempting to return my bus to stock hight.It has been lowered two splines in the past I have managed to strip the rear and understand how it all goes back but on one side the spring plate looks like it stands proud but its back far enough to sit on the step so now im thinking the spring is a bit shorter is this possible? |
It is normal for the spring plate to not fit completely flush with the torsion bar. |
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anyone else see the spring plate article in a recent issue of hot VWs? lots of cool stuff to look through
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The rear of my bus unloaded is a little low, but when its loaded for camping and the small trailer it can get pretty saggy. I would like to lift it up a bit but don't want to destroy the new CVs and don't want to go to 930s since the current ones are brand new. Currently the axle angles are 9 degrees on flat ground unloaded. Assuming most miles will be driven unloaded what is the upper limit of the axle angle before the CV's lifespan starts to reduced????
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I know this is an old thread ... but did it ever help me today. Thanks for the great instructions and pics patayres!
One thing to add ... when putting in the bolts to secure the hub back to the end of the spring plate, start with the 2 captive bolts followed by the 2 nut and bolts that go through the spring plate and hub. I spent 30 minutes doing it the other way around. It only took sconds to get them threaded this way. |
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One thing to add ... when putting in the bolts to secure the hub back to the end of the spring plate, start with the 2 captive bolts followed by the 2 nut and bolts that go through the spring plate and hub. I spent 30 minutes doing it the other way around. It only took sconds to get them threaded this way. |
Thanks for that. I don't remember how I did my left side a while ago, but the right side was quick when I did it your way today.
Just a heads up for those who read these threads for fun- It is probably worth replacing your torsion bushings even if you don't plan on resetting the spring plate angle. Here are my used ones, notice the wear on the left bushing. The right bushing looks like that on the back, but ok on the visible side (for comparison.) When I took the plate cover off, rubber shards and powder came pouring out. 98k documented original miles on the chassis. I didn't hear any squeaks or grinds beforehand, but I had the bushings on my shelf and thought it would be fun 
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