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tkolbo Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2010 Posts: 43 Location: tacoma, wa
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Cheating? I call it valuing my spare time. Just jack it up. Insert 1/4 hex. Turn screw to desired height. Lower jack. Presto, ride height is changed. No protractor or rocket science involved.
You have witnessed the evolution of man and his bus.
Time to drive.
Tyler |
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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tkolbo wrote: |
Cheating? I call it valuing my spare time. Just jack it up. Insert 1/4 hex. Turn screw to desired height. Lower jack. Presto, ride height is changed. No protractor or rocket science involved.
You have witnessed the evolution of man and his bus.
Time to drive.
Tyler |
i gotta get me some of those....
got pics of the bus after the lift? _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDi 6 speed manual
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tkolbo Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2010 Posts: 43 Location: tacoma, wa
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Stay tuned................. |
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fusername Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2006 Posts: 2897 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:21 am Post subject: |
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trust me tho, those adjusters will not work in about 2 months time. the threads get all fudged up, can't handle the weight. Consider them one time use, seeing as how all the bug sets I ahve ever heard of get ruined pretty quick, can't imagine a bus set will last any longer!
however, sitll kinda nice to have, would save you an evening of futzing around. _________________ [email protected]
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tkolbo Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2010 Posts: 43 Location: tacoma, wa
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:50 am Post subject: |
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We shall see I suppose.
Bus sits level.
Mission accomplished!
TK |
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:56 am Post subject: |
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tkolbo wrote: |
We shall see I suppose.
Bus sits level.
Mission accomplished!
TK |
now for some bigger than stock tires so you can go offroad a bit ....right?
those RA08's only go so far..... _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:58 am Post subject: |
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tkolbo wrote: |
We shall see I suppose.
Bus sits level.
Mission accomplished!
TK |
wow. I wonder if a set is worthwhile? When I had the 1971 I feared doing that butt sag job cause it looked so complex. But when I actually did it on the 1977 I have it took me less than an hour and I replaced the rubber donuts at the same time. I've read over and over that the torsion bar takes a set after awhile and that once it does, the adjustment holds forever - or at least until the rubber goes bad again. For me it was like one notch on each end - one forward and one backwards and that set it perfect. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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tkolbo Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2010 Posts: 43 Location: tacoma, wa
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Time will tell for mine I suppose. Either way you will have to remove the old plates, install the new. The initial install is the only time consuming part. After that, if adjustments are needed, jack er up, adjust screws, let er down, drive.
I am quite certain the claim of "cheater" comes from someone who had to remove and re-install the plates 3-4 times in order to get the height right.
I have 3 boys, 65hour a week job, rentals, very active wife. In other words, no time to dork around with a day full of adjustments and frustration.
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12688 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:01 am Post subject: |
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After a myriad of searches on here and parts houses, I can't find a number for the bushings. Any chance somebody has it, or knows where I can grab a new set.
That being said, are there any quality bushings available?
EDIT: Made a phone call (imagine that!) and one 211-511-245 A is listed by BusDepot and German Supply, but a few local parts places say that there is a new number, 211-511-249 A. _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12688 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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OK honest question time:
What year did this cut out materialize? (blue circle, sorry for the picture stealing.) There is no cut out for the metal brake lines on my '69 and it rendered the job impossible. Well, I could get the spring plate off the torsion bar, but the ONLY way I could get the spring plate back on was with 0 net change (back to stock.) At least I got two new bushing for my drivers side… I am on hour 6 right now, and I just bolted it back together out of frustration. (I'm putting in a new MC and rubber brake lines next week when the parts get here, so I'll have my brake lines off then to do this job right.)
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20233 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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I think that changed for the 70 model year, or thereabouts. My 70 had the notches, two 68's I've had did not. I just remove the brake line the first time I take that stuff apart, and use an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel to make the notch. That is essentially what the newer plates look to have had done. _________________ nothing |
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tkolbo Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2010 Posts: 43 Location: tacoma, wa
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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My plates had no notches. Removed brake lines to git r dun. Ground the notch out incase they are needed again.
Patience Grasshopper!
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20233 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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I just happened upon this while searching the gallery for something else. I figured I would post it here for future reference.
This is what the early spring plate looks like without the notch cut for easy brake hard line removal.
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Bansheelos Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2012 Posts: 313 Location: NY/NJ
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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yanked off the covers to my spring plates this is the driver side
and this is the pass.
Now question, should I be worried that my pass side is not flush w/ the spring plate like the driver side is? _________________ Just me and my Bus!
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fusername Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2006 Posts: 2897 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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strange. But there is no stop in teh back, iirc they just have an inchor two between em inside the tube, o someone just slidi t in a little too far and was too alzy to fix. I wouldn't worry, just fix it while you're there. _________________ [email protected]
Need something custom bent up? shoot me an email, maybe we can make it work!
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Maybe Ben Pon's ghost comes and vomits NOS stampings for your bus, but not mine! |
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pintail78 Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2013 Posts: 97 Location: san diego
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't there an inner spring plate bushing too, I don't see any pics of it. Is it pretty forward to change that one too? _________________ 1968 Transporter Bus |
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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there is an inner and an outer, if you take the plate off, its right there. piece of cake. just make sure you powder it up real nice with talcum powder. that squeak is SO annoying... _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
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pintail78 Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2013 Posts: 97 Location: san diego
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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yea mine squeaks really bad right now, and has about 1/2" of sag as measured by the jackpoints.......looks like i'm going to be doing this soon. I was going to just use a floor jack to release the tension on the spring arm, seems like it should work.... _________________ 1968 Transporter Bus |
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pintail78 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hey one question, what are the best jack points? the torsion tube? or the frame in front of that? _________________ 1968 Transporter Bus |
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1967250s Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Depends- what kind of shape are they in and what are you doing? Torsion tube should be strongest for floorjack. It is cast steel, not sheet metal like the rest of the body. But it is suported by sheetmetal, so check it all. And using a piece of wood to spread the load is a good idea.
Edit- duh, forgot what thread was about, supporting the chassis farther back might help. Some have reported that supports too far forward will result in lifting whole body when jacking the arm up. Putting the jack and stands farther back will result more leverage at arm. I'd suggest using the rear engine bearers for stands, jack it at the center of torsion tube to lift whole Bus evenly,if you have full size floor jack, or sides abit at a time, raising stands as you go. Be careful, chock front wheels. |
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