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energyturtle
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: Distributor drive gear spacer |
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| Is the distributor drive gear spacer/washer the same diameter as the bottom of the drive gear. I hope so because I went fishing in the case for it and found "a washer"? Also what does the washer sit down on during install. The bentley is very vague and I did not see any postings after a search a pic would be awesome. |
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SGKent
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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the design is different between a T1 and a T4. Which do you have? A large photo of the washer you found would help too.
This is a T4 washer. There is only one. Notice it is cupped in areas to reduce contact.
http://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/product.php?productid=17056&cat=297&page=18
On a T1 engine there are usually a minimum of 2 thin shims and as many as 5 or 6 if the gear has been shimmed.
T1 looks like this but it will be very shiny and show wear from spinning
http://www.texasaircooled.com/catalog/images/P/111-105-235A_DIST_SHIM.jpg
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject: DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR SPACER |
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hazetguy
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| that is not a distributor drive gear washer. looks like an 8mm spring washer that fell in the case. my guess is that it fell off the dist clamp when removing the distributor. |
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: drive gear. |
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| Bitter sweet news. Got something out of the case. I hope what I need is not still in there. I will order one from german supply. How does it go in before the drive gear and what does it sit on. |
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Are your sure you dropped the thrust washer into the abyss of the case? It will sometimes just sit where it belongs when the drive is removed, at other times it will ride up as the drive is pulled and fall who knows where. |
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SGKent
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| hazetguy wrote: | | that is not a distributor drive gear washer. looks like an 8mm spring washer that fell in the case. my guess is that it fell off the dist clamp when removing the distributor. |
Keep looking.
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: drive gear. |
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Not sure. It is a fresh build. Completely tore down case halfs split, the whole deal. I am assuming it was never there after it was put back together. Got it in long block form.
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:31 pm Post subject: DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR SPACER |
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| Called my engine guy. He did put the drive gear in but did not put the thrust washer on as he recalled. Would a new one have come in the bus depot gasket kit? |
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:38 pm Post subject: The bus your helping with. |
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:42 pm Post subject: bus depot tent. |
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Tent would not could not fit. Had to do some custom tailoring.
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:43 pm Post subject: Thanks. |
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| Thanks for the help guys. Back to work ughhh. |
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:15 pm Post subject: Found the spacer I think. |
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Is this it and does it slide all the way up the gear shaft? |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Found the spacer I think. |
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| energyturtle wrote: | | Is this it and does it slide all the way up the gear shaft? |
yes if it is a T4 motor. Use grease to hold it on before you slide the gear in. Another way is to grease it, slide it onto a long clean screwdriver or wooden dowel etc, hold it with your finger so it cannot slide then put the tip of the screwdriver or dowel into the bottom hole and let it slide down until it sits flat. Then leave the dowel / screwdriver in until you get ready to put the drive gear in.
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject: DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR SPACER |
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| It is a type 4 2.0 ge code. Sorry I didn't clarify that first. I am still not understanding where it goes though. If I understand correctly it goes down in the hole where the drive gear engages the cam? |
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energyturtle
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:56 pm Post subject: DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR SPACER |
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| Nevermind. I got it. I understand where the screwdriver would help. Does it matter what side of the washer faces up? |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR SPACER |
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| energyturtle wrote: | | Nevermind. I got it. I understand where the screwdriver would help. Does it matter what side of the washer faces up? |
no. Just be sure to use grease on it to hold it from falling. The tail of that gear fits through it. If you lift the gear back out after you put it in be aware that if it falls off you may have to split the case to get it back.
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR SPACER |
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| energyturtle wrote: | | Called my engine guy. He did put the drive gear in but did not put the thrust washer on as he recalled. |
Now that's a stamp of approval for the builder, I wonder what else he left out or brushed aside as unneccesary?  
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR SPACER |
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| busdaddy wrote: | | energyturtle wrote: | | Called my engine guy. He did put the drive gear in but did not put the thrust washer on as he recalled. |
Now that's a stamp of approval for the builder, I wonder what else he left out or brushed aside as unneccesary? |
That was my thought as well. If he didn't have the thrust washer available to install he should not have dropped the dizzy drive into place.  |
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