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Dale M.
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I believe it needs pulses to re trigger electronics to keep relay energized....
Dale
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10ovr
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| Thanks Dale,,Nothing like chasing you ass for a few hours,,LOL |
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DBK UK
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read the thread and it confused the hell out of me,can someone post up the correct wiring diagram please 
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Dale M.
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It's all right here..... The whole argument about contacts 30 and 87 is moot as it will work just as it is described in first few graphics in thread...
Oh heck, I'm bored, have the time, here is the diagram....
If it is a problem for you to adapt to using the relay, maybe this is solution for you....
http://revolutionelectronics.com/Fuel_Pump.html
Dale
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DBK UK
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Dale M. wrote: |
it will work just as it is described in first few graphics in thread...
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good enough for me
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MonkeySee
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| Heres to reviving an old thread. I need to run an elec pump on my AS21 case but I'm running petronics elec ignition. Will this effect the relay or vise versa? |
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Dale M.
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| Heres to reviving an old thread. I need to run an elec pump on my AS21 case but I'm running petronics elec ignition. Will this effect the relay or vise versa? |
Should not, timing pulses to relay/electronic modules are generally the ignition coil feed back pulses on terminal #1 (-) of coil as magnet file in coil primary collapses. Triggering method (points or module) should have no effect on fuel pump control relay/module operation..
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teletwin
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Kudos to all that contributed to this thread. I used Glenn's diagram, a CB Performance rotary pump, the German relay 3.300.300, moved the filter out of the engine compartment and replaced all the fuel line with the high quality FI stuff at my local auto parts store.
I just have to add a fuse to 15, wire manage, and find a good method of mounting the relay. Any Ideas?
Just for reference...when I got My '72 bus it had old fuel line running across the engine into a facet pump mounted above the fan in the front, then into a filter (above the distributor) and back to the carb. Upon removal I discovered a bare spot in the power wire to the pump. I can't believe it hadn't caught fire.
Everything works exactly as described. It feels great to know the pump kicks off 2-3 seconds after the switch. I can also listen to the stereo system without either leaving it running or continuously pumping gas into the carb. |
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EaCybug
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: Electric fuel pump - wiring question |
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| can this wiring for electronic fuel pump be done with a regular universal relay |
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Dale M.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Electric fuel pump - wiring question |
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| can this wiring for electronic fuel pump be done with a regular universal relay |
Yes... BUT it gives you no flow protection in case of accident or what ever causes engine to stall and you have maybe a broken fuel line or vehicle in on its side and needle and seat is "open" on carb and fuel continues to flow onto hot engine or on ground where a spark might set it off...
Dale
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EaCybug
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:40 am Post subject: Re: Electric fuel pump - wiring question |
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| thanks, I will get the special fuel pump relay and do it right . |
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Balmoral1958
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Electric fuel pump - wiring question |
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is there a definitive wiring diagram?
there was a lot of back and forth .. |
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Dale M.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Electric fuel pump - wiring question |
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| Balmoral1958 wrote: |
is there a definitive wiring diagram?
there was a lot of back and forth .. |
?????...... There are so many confusing configurations you have to pick a configuration before you can get a definitive diagram...
What are you going to pick, idiot light method from alternator or oil pressure method or ignition coil trigger method...
To me the only definitive system is the Revolution Electronics module module...
http://revolutionelectronics.com/Fuel_Pump.html
Others will have different opinion on what is definitive....
Dale
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