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srcole Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2010 Posts: 36 Location: Arlington, Virginia
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject: Need Help - Rear Hood Latch problem |
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A newly acquired 72 convertible does not have a rear hood latch. I bought one along with the knob, cable, plastic tubing, etc. I think I have everything I need except for one thing. I have almost no idea about the path of the cable from the latch to where the knob comes out of the wall behind the driver's seat next to the rear seat.
Can someone describe or, even better share pictures, where the cable/plastic tube go? Thanks |
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echeban Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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The cable goes from the rear seat area through the rear quarter, to the rear apron, I believe it is held on with metal on the apron. on my 71 the metal is missing but on a clip I have its there. Hope these pics help If you need any more let me know.
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Ghiaddict Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 2632 Location: Now in Honea Path, SC
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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If at all possible, this repair should be done
similar to what is done when replacing a wiring harness.
Tie a string to what parts are present so that the string
remains in place when the old parts are pulled out.
You then have something in place that will make it much
easier to install the new parts.> Tie to string and pull back in. _________________ ****************************
Karmann Ghia & Beetle parts available.
Convertible tops installed. |
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srcole Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2010 Posts: 36 Location: Arlington, Virginia
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: Follow up |
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echeban wrote: |
The cable goes from the rear seat area through the rear quarter, to the rear apron, I believe it is held on with metal on the apron. on my 71 the metal is missing but on a clip I have its there. Hope these pics help If you need any more let me know. |
Thanks so much for the photos. the first and last are clear in what they are showing. Could you possibly provide more detailed captions for the middle two photos so I have a clearer sense of what I am looking at. Sorry for any inconvenience. Thanks again. |
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echeban Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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behind the knob it looks like this:
sorry for the pic i had to stick the camera inside the fender to take the pic.
then the plastic tube goes around the wheel-well.
the plastic tube is in the center of the photo. (thanks PO for the bondo.)
then on the top left side of the engine compartment it looks like this. the empty large hole is for the wiring harness the upper left tube is to drain the water from the rear window, and the bottom left hole is the plastic tube for the decklid release cable. (ignore that large hole in the bottom right of the pic.) |
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Marlonius Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2004 Posts: 398 Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm posting my question here because it seems like the most relevant thread on the subject: deckid release cables...
So, I have a cable and knob from a parts car. When it was harvested, the holder from the rear seat kickboard was unscrewed, and the entire assembly taken from the car.
My problem is that I can't figure out how to get that knob off of the cable assembly. (So that I can install carpet.) I'm referring to the short section of brass that the cable is attached to and that the knob is mounted on. Is it supposed to unscrew, or is it friction fit? I'm scared to damage mine, so any advice is welcome.
Thanks,
M> |
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ovghiaguy Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2009 Posts: 848 Location: Orangevale Ca.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: rear hood latch |
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it's one piece, the knob does't come off. I'll be in this position soon, I just got my carpet. I plan to unhook the cable at the latch and pull out leaving plastic tube in place. after carpet installation push cable and knob back in |
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Kar_Man Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 57 Location: BC Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone know if you can buy the plastic cover? Mine was melted by PO _________________ 67 Ghia, 1776 with dual Dellortos, Engle 110, 914 2.0L alloys |
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Ghiaddict Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 2632 Location: Now in Honea Path, SC
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Marlonius Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2004 Posts: 398 Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:24 am Post subject: Re: rear hood latch |
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ovghiaguy wrote: |
it's one piece, the knob does't come off. I'll be in this position soon, I just got my carpet. I plan to unhook the cable at the latch and pull out leaving plastic tube in place. after carpet installation push cable and knob back in |
Thanks for this. I was afraid I'd have to resort to doing it this way...hopefully it won't be too hard to re-install the cable when all is said and done.
M> |
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70 140 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 8471 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: |
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flatten the ends of it out - where the set screw might have kinked it. It should slide in and out of the tube easily. |
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Marlonius Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2004 Posts: 398 Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Here's my latest quandry...it looks like the cable will have to bend sharply around the convertible roof support bracket. Either that, or I'll have to drill a hole in it. Am I missing something here? In the photo, I've inserted the screwdriver and drawn a line to show what I mean.
Any suggestions? |
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Disc Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2009 Posts: 555 Location: Europe
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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We have a '67 CV and that roof support piece have a hole for a cable! |
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Ghiaddict Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 2632 Location: Now in Honea Path, SC
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:15 am Post subject: |
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There should be no need to drill a hole.
It's there already. You just haven't found it yet. _________________ ****************************
Karmann Ghia & Beetle parts available.
Convertible tops installed. |
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Marlonius Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2004 Posts: 398 Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Sure enough, there it was...it seems like a plug of Bondo Dust, paint/primer fumes, dirt and god knows what else had formed, perfectly hiding the hole. I rooted around in there with a longer screwdriver than the one in the picture, and voila.
Thanks guys.
M> |
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NOVA Airhead Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2005 Posts: 5221 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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When you replace this be sure to have a back-up plan for getting the deck lid open without the cable! Its tricky to get the adjustment right and/or have the tube not flex.
The result can be a closed engine lid with no way to open it. _________________ Ghia Owner Emeritus |
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PJE1 Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2008 Posts: 12 Location: Near Houston, TX
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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You can open the lid, it requires that you drill a hole from under the car where the bottom of the latch would be and with a screwdriver trip the latch. Don't ask how I know.
Pete '70 ghia |
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Marlonius Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2004 Posts: 398 Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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My engine isn't in the car right now, so I have good access in any case. Good advice though...I'd suggest to anyone that they remove some tin before doing a change with the engine in the vehicle. |
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Altema Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2010 Posts: 2903 Location: Lower Michigan
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Marlonius wrote: |
My engine isn't in the car right now, so I have good access in any case. Good advice though...I'd suggest to anyone that they remove some tin before doing a change with the engine in the vehicle. |
No engine should make it pretty easy, lol. Just taking out the rear tin should give enough room for those with the engine still in.
Paul |
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hudsonce Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2010 Posts: 506 Location: Hagerstown, MD
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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I may be missing the obvious, but.... I want to install new decklid release cable and plastic sheath (was not used after po replaced rear clip of car.) I wonder if plastic sheath goes all the way through the area under the rear seat? If so, does the enlarged part of the sheath (flange) go closer to the pull knob in the back seat or the release clamp in the engine compartment (like I have it threaded here? or flip it around and thread it the other way?) Finally, where does the small black rear hood cable tube anchoring sleeve go? and how does it work? I assume any fateners to bolt the clamp to the body of the car will work; and that wire goes in back of clamp at spring/pulley with a set screw. Is that right? KGPR sent me all the parts I THINK I need, but serious NOOB still needs step by step if anyone can help. Also have pics of exactly how the PO left if for me.
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