CV Boots

mondshine · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:45 am Post subject:

Solomon-
I can't really get under the car right now, but the part number from my e-mail records is 814-21.
The person I dealt with at Rockford was Russ Jacobson, [email protected]
This part number is for the "short" boot.
Both clamps were the original style, where you squeeze them on by hand to engage the little hooks, then crimp the bulge to final tighten them. They do not leak, but as I mentioned before, I wish they were long enough to reach the depressions in the axles. If I had a reason to remove the axles, I would certainly replace the boots with the longer ones, but this is a job that I really hate to do.
Wildthings-
Are the 339-4 boots the correct size?
I still believe the Rockford boots are the best you can get these days, but it would be great to have a definitive answer for the kit number, and the boot number.

Good luck, Mondshine

rjonas · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:22 am Post subject:

I made the mistake about 9-months ago and bought Meyle "German" boots.
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This is what they looked like after 3K miles and 9-months...
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I bought the Rockford Duraboot direct from Rockford...came with wicked blue grease. They are a bit shorter and only have 3 ribs.
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Presently have about 1-month and 200 miles on them...field report to follow in a few months....
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Solomon Grundy · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:34 am Post subject:

Rockford CV Duraboots on my 181 – Mystery solved! Smile

Bellow is a picture I got from the folks at Rockford today.
Looks like the 339-4A with the 4.5 inch tall boot "339-22 Kit" should do the trick.

The 335-3A is clearly the one I got and does not reach the groove on the shaft.

The 339-22 Kit looks way more stock to me.

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http://www.rockfordcv.com/rcvboot.htm

The 335-3A kit is recommended on there web page and it will work but it is short and prone to leak.
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mondshine · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:42 am Post subject:

Thanks Solomon
339-4A looks pretty good to me, despite the sexy bulge on the middle one.
I'll make a note of it for the future.
Best regards, Mondshine

Solomon Grundy · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:57 am Post subject:

Being this is clearly going to be an issue for other folks perhaps I should start a thread just about this issue so folks can find it easier. Clearly the rubber coming out of China and Germany is crap.

Maybe the late model Bus folks should be alerted as well.
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Wildthings · Samba Member Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 19931

It would be nice is we could get Rockford to change their listing for The Thing, the bus, and the 411/412's/Porsches. This is a problem that has gone on for a long while and will continue to be a problem until Rockford makes the correction.

Solomon Grundy · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:30 am Post subject:

If you go to the Rockford page on Volkswagens that 339-22 Kit is called out but not on any air-cooled cars and they are a $44.23. The other short boot 814-21 Kit is $13.97.
I will talk with them and see what I can do.

The 339-22 Kit show up under "GOLF III" "PASSAT" & "CORRADO"
http://www.rockfordcv.com/Volkswagen_bootkits.htm

No call outs as far as I can see for the 411/412's/Porsches.
http://www.rockfordcv.com/Porsche_bootkits.htm
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and I am not talking about the VW K70, a watercooled front engine car designed by NSU from the early 1970s… Wink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_K70

mondshine · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:35 am Post subject:

Guys-
I have contacted Russ Jacobson at Rockford stating:

Russ-
Please check this link:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=411283&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Would it be possible to change your catalog listing for the CV boots for VW Things (Model 181) ?
It seems that the 339-4A 339-22 kit is more suitable than the currently listed 335-3A 814-21 kit.

With so much dissatisfaction with the quality of CV boots commonly available to the vintage VW community, this could be an opportunity for a nice sales niche for you.

Thanks very much, Gary Mondshine

Best, Mondshine

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Solomon Grundy · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject:

kubelmann · Samba Member Joined: April 13, 2003 Posts: 2949

My issue is I have boxes of like new, used 944 100 mm CV boots . I clean them and use them and CVs need servicing so i have no issues with swapping out the used ones. I still have never seen one of my new old used 944 boots that cracked prior to the time when the CV needed service. I have lots of them for $5 each

Fun 181 · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:01 am Post subject:

Just saw the revival of this thread (I'm not on the Samba daily like I used to be). Anyhow, I can confirm that German Supply Scott used to sell Rockford Boots #335-3 as Thing boots because that's what Rockford told him was the correct boot. Somewhere along the line he (they) figured out that Rockford #339-4 were the correct boot for Things as the #335-3 were too short. I went through this (And posted about here I thought) a few years back. I had originally ordered the 335-3s in 2006, they were too short and leaked within a year or two. I posted photos of the mess here on the Smaba, Scott saw my post, and sent me 339-4 replacements at no charge. Bottom line, Rockfords are the best quality out there, and part #339-4 is what you want.
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Solomon Grundy · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:08 pm Post subject:

Glad to get some confirmation on that. ThanX Cool

How are those Rockford #339-4 working out so far?
Any updated pix?

Pix from Fun 181: the Rockford #335-3 were too short:
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and I am not talking about the VW K70, a watercooled front engine car designed by NSU from the early 1970s… Wink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_K70

Fun 181 · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject:

Solomon Grundy · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:09 pm Post subject:

Thanks Fun 181

The underside of your car is cleaner than the inside of my car. Rolling Eyes

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
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VW 181 Archive: https://sites.google.com/site/jeffgilleland/vw_archive
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| |_______| '73 Thing "481"
| _\_\_|_/_/_
| |O||_4_||O|
| [ ]=====[ ]
and I am not talking about the VW K70, a watercooled front engine car designed by NSU from the early 1970s… Wink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_K70

Banker · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject:

Bookmarked for future.
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Mark Lewalski · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:28 am Post subject:

I'm in the market for boots now too and read this thread. It looks like Rockford updated their website so the 339-22 kit is now listed for the Thing.

They sure seem expensive at $45 compared to (mostly) $10 price range for others. Is $180 vs. $40 really warranted? Just asking... not trying to be cheap, I've also got other parts to buy and need to make my $$ last.

Mark
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Wildthings · Samba Member Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 19931

Much better price when they have them in stock, always worth a call to see if they have them.

http://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/product.php?productid=17211&cat=&page=1

Solomon Grundy · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:23 pm Post subject:

Solomon Grundy · Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject:

A little update on the Rockford CV Duraboots on my 481.
So far the rubber is doing well, but some minor leaking still persists around the flange area but no big deal.
Note that to be extra sure I put a small weld bead of black RVT around the base of the boot to prevent leaking if the clamping was not 100%. That appears to have worked pretty well thus far.

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One year later and about 10,000 long rough miles.
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
- Dr. Seuss
VW 181 Archive: https://sites.google.com/site/jeffgilleland/vw_archive
| _______
| |_______| '73 Thing "481"
| _\_\_|_/_/_
| |O||_4_||O|
| [ ]=====[ ]
and I am not talking about the VW K70, a watercooled front engine car designed by NSU from the early 1970s… Wink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_K70

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