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kaferdude Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2003 Posts: 51 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:09 pm Post subject: Transmission Ground Strap |
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I'm trying to get my pan completed before I put the body back on ('57 oval). Unfortunately, its been several years since I took everything apart and I can't remember how/where the transmission ground strap goes on. Before I start loosening up too many transmission bolts, is it like pic1 or pic2 on the right side of the transmission or some other configuration? Anyone have any pics of what it should look like?
And just out of curiousity, what is the purpose of this strap? What's being 'grounded'?
pic 1
pic 2
Thanks for the help.
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14576 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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RareAir Samba Member
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Der Bugmeister Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2007 Posts: 171 Location: Duncan, BC
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Grounds the engine/transmission to the chassis. Without it, your accelerator and clutch cables act as the ground which leads to premature cable failure at the leaded ends. _________________ I have Lots of parts for sale on Vancouver Island, mostly type 1 but some Type 2/3 as well. |
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Schwing Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2009 Posts: 2506 Location: Centreville, MD
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Mine is at the nose. Its a 57 as well.
Is that ok?
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SixVolt Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2004 Posts: 1136 Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Schwing wrote: |
Mine is at the nose. Its a 57 as well.
Is that ok?
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Just a suggestion. I would take that strap off and clean it up real good and clean the studs and bolts as well. A dirty ground strap once caused me some head scratching gremlins. |
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Schwing Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2009 Posts: 2506 Location: Centreville, MD
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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A dirty ground strap once caused me some head scratching gremlins. |
Good suggestion. I'll add it to the list I couldn't agree more. |
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kaferdude Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2003 Posts: 51 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, Rareair, you say that the strap should be like pic1 but on the driver's side. But Schwing's picture appears to have the strap on the passenger side of the transmission but looped around and connected to the other rear-facing bolt/nut. I just tried doing as in Schwing's picture but it sure looks like my ground strap is too long (see pic). Schwing, has your strap ever been removed?
I guess this configuration will serve its purpose. Any thoughts? |
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Volumex Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2007 Posts: 532 Location: Sarnia, ON
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'd suggest not having a loop hanging down in the direction of travel - just in case these is a stick or something poking up enough to get caught in it. |
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Schwing Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2009 Posts: 2506 Location: Centreville, MD
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Schwing, has your strap ever been removed? |
To my knowledge the transmission or strap has never been removed. My bug sat since the 80s with 149K original miles so its not likely anyone ever removed the transmission.
I just checked the "Volkswagen Owners Handbook by Floyd Clymer" (published in 1957) and there's a pic with the transmission ground strap at the nose of the transmission (where mine is) only its mounted to one of the nuts much higher on the transmission.
I can't speak for this book's accuracy but its at least another pic. Here it is:
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Suboval Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2003 Posts: 794
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Here's mine on my 57 Hoizon Blue Oval with only 28,000 miles on it.
_________________ It all works on paper.
There's two things we learn from history:
1.) History repeats itself.
2.) We don't learn from history. |
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Russ Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2003 Posts: 1560 Location: Langley B.C.
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:53 am Post subject: |
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kaferdude wrote: |
Okay, Rareair, you say that the strap should be like pic1 but on the driver's side. But Schwing's picture appears to have the strap on the passenger side of the transmission but looped around and connected to the other rear-facing bolt/nut. I just tried doing as in Schwing's picture but it sure looks like my ground strap is too long (see pic). Schwing, has your strap ever been removed?
I guess this configuration will serve its purpose. Any thoughts? |
the after market straps you buy are definitely longer,maybe twist it a couple of times to take up the slack _________________ Cruiser pedals for sale (see my ad's)
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Schwing Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2009 Posts: 2506 Location: Centreville, MD
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Or just loop the slack around the top.
It looks like VW did this a lot of different ways. I wonder if it came down to what technician was installing it. I agree with Russ, give it a few twists to take up slack then run any slack UP instead of DOWN.
OR people can start crawlin under their dubs and snappin some shots here
By the way kafer your chassis looks real clean! I need to get busy. |
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