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240Gordy Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2008 Posts: 2354 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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how hard is it to change the water pump in one of those?
I am hating my 1.9L right now. Major pain to change the water pump. _________________ Tencentlife said,
"So, now that you know what you're doing, go to town."
2010 GOLF TRENDLINE 2.5
1985 GL now with more! a 2.1L
H&R SPORT(RED) Springs FRONT , SLAM SPECIALTIES RE6 AIRBAGS REAR |
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ddonnell Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2007 Posts: 373 Location: Sunset Beach
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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levi wrote: |
I like torque. |
I think everyone does!
thummmper wrote: |
a hypothetical 214. she has 174000 miles on her, so her factory
freshness is a little stale, but it only costs 2500 for a moparts crate motor. |
Now whats the MPG? Is this conversion cost effective, or is it just because of the extra horses, or ??? _________________ 1990 Vanagon Carat-SOLD
1995 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 V10
1966 Baja "The Beast"
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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the wassenpumpen is a 2 hour job. It's located in the old cam locale, under the tstat.
It is usually replaced every 105000 with the cam belt while theyre in there. almost never fail. the cam belt parts are $400.00 or so.
she makes 221 ft lbs torque at 2800.
I just drove her to san diego, some 225 miles, round trip and got 23 mpg at 80. It goes up at slower speeds, but I didnt have the time to find out. she weighs 900 lbs more than my gl and the tires are 25.5" tall.
3.9/1 r/p. 2100 rpm at 70. that lockup converter really helps. It has traction control too. I will have to look to see what the claims are for 1300 rpm torque.
this e/t is stubborn coming out-the car was in missouri for 5 years from california with an air force reservist who got activated, so the bolts all have a little katrina in their threads. I had to cut through an exhaust pipe today to remedy a taper flange bolt that wouldnt budge in the little room there was to turn a wrench. theres more room around a 396 in a 70 camaro than this car. It's no wonder mechanics get higher rates, they need so many special tools just to reach this stuff. my eyes are opening...
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ddonnell Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2007 Posts: 373 Location: Sunset Beach
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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thummmper wrote: |
I just drove her to san diego, some 225 miles, round trip and got 23 mpg at 80. It goes up at slower speeds, but no time. she weighs 900 lbs more than my gl and the tires are 25.5" tall.
3.9/1 r/p. 2100 rpm at 70. that lockup converter really helps. It has traction control too. I will have to look to see what the claims are for 1300 rpm torque.
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2100rpm @ 70.... I'm drooling!
So the mpg is in the van, or the original car? 23mpg at 80 is pretty impressive. In my WBX, I get +/- 17 at 75. So @ 5mpg difference, is that going to be cost effective overall.
Figure 20,000 miles per year. Stock WBX will get a good mix of 16-17mpg. Thats 1250 gallons per year. At $2.75/gal = $3437.5 in gas/year
Same 20,000 miles. With 25mpg. That'll be 800 gallons/year. At same $2.75/gal=$2200 in gas/ year
$1200/year so in about 4-6 years you'll be making money with it depending how expensive you figure your labor to be.
Pretty darn good man! _________________ 1990 Vanagon Carat-SOLD
1995 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 V10
1966 Baja "The Beast"
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morymob Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2007 Posts: 4683 Location: east-tn
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:05 am Post subject: |
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I thought about this same thing with an old '84 awhile back using either the Buick or Olds (same i think) but with the supercharger. After awhile i decided the challenge a bit much but good luck. Saw a single cab a few yrs back with the whole Buick and subframe assy grafted into the back, very neat job. |
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:11 am Post subject: |
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in my 90 i actually got 21 with the 2.1/ manual before I pulled it for the suby.
I researched the gm 3.8. nice dependable ptrain, but I wanted a back seat, so the sideways thing dq'd it.
I am very close to lifting the e/t out of the LHS. 1 half shaft, rear trans mount bolt and I can start lifting,
that is as soon as bitchen calls me back so I can get his hoist and impact gun for the stub axles.
my landlord just dialed it up and wants me out by aug 15, so I have till the end of this month [july] to install and finish the hdw.
then I need 2 weeks to demo my second floor and truck it off. I'm going for it cause I dont have another months rent.
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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It's finally out!!!
took it to my local scrap yard and they weighed it with their forklift and a digital pallet scale 691 lbs
now i will clean everything tonight after I get the speed sensors from the hubs and cut off what i need from the subframe--
theres still 15 gallons of gas in this thing, so I will remove the pump/sender in the tank and start sucking.
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Is it the same engine+tranny on the 2 pics?
transmission lookslike different
Who was making the tranny?It looks like a ZF.....maybe you can use the same adapters as I'm using
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:17 am Post subject: |
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fitting #1 yielded data that led me to #2 with some trimming.
With that, I am almost down to where I need to be. those exhaust manifolds stick out like chicken wings. All along I have just had a knowing about this project. There is enough room for the manifolds just between the stringers. That was total luck.
I will make templates for the steel needed to rienforce everything.
this was a fast long day
Alika- that is a chrysler trans--42LE/ A606 electronic auto trans with traction control. Its a torqueflight from the sixties that
makes a u turn to a sandwiched differential. Just what I needed.
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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first preliminary settled fitting-I can lower it another inch
but that puts me in the 8" ground clearance neighborhood.
I was up till 130 last night, so I'm bushed again and coughing up cigar. nice. It has taken a long time to get to this point,
and it looks viable.
I will reinforce the arm pin gussets I cut, probably with the same pieces.
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Installing a new cross member 6-1/8" fwd of the first one takes a little planning while rerouting conduits and cables.
I have a design on paper now that handles everything. I will be sandwiching 3 layers of 1/8" wall 2x2 steel square tubing
so I can picture frame here and there instead of doing the wristracking holesaw thing. I will still holesaw the stringer
transitions to lay everything outboard.
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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tri tube cross member spaces beautifully, scaling the van beams perfectly while allowing all conduits to pass through without any
loss of strength.
coolant manifolds in place for pre-fitting. I want to make them removeable in case they begin to leak for any reason.
hot water return coolant crossover manifold is ready for leak testing
knuckle guards in place tie the pins in from the front as well
the pin braces/ knuckle guards are the launch site for the round tube motor mounts--
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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you're working too fast
I wish I could weld like you |
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D Clymer Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2005 Posts: 2978 Location: Issaquah, WA
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Impressive fabrication work, Todd! I like what I'm seeing.
One question: Did you situate the transmission so that the output flanges are perfectly aligned with the outer axle stubs? I can't quite tell from the photos how you've got it laid out.
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Sir Sam Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2009 Posts: 1689 Location: Fort Collins Colorado!
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:09 am Post subject: |
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On any other forum we would have seen someone commenting on your welds by now.
I'm not going to be that guy except to say mine look the same.
Also, about draining that gas, used the fuel pump to drain it. _________________ '91 Carat Westy
87' Syncro + '87 Westy conversion coming soon |
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Sir Sam Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2009 Posts: 1689 Location: Fort Collins Colorado!
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Also, the back of that transmission has an interesting bolt pattern:
It is very similar to the parting line of my transfer case.
_________________ '91 Carat Westy
87' Syncro + '87 Westy conversion coming soon |
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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The trans had to be set 1.5" aft of the center of the trailing arm cv radius.
I can never just give a strait answer. so now the mondo motor mounts are over half done--I was going to use 1.5" 1/8 wall
steel tubing, but I didnt like the scale of it and it would look underbuilt, so I opted for a nice 10 guage 2" steel tubing I had
on the rack.
This is the bracket the engine will bolt up to at the rubber mounts.
my welding sucked really hard until I got a halogen light under there, then it only sucked terribly. since I am so aesthetic, I paid my
penance by grinding all of it for 3 hours and touching voids up for the regrind.
surfaces must be flat to fit things to, so I'm on it. my welding has always sucked laying down--I keep thinking I just contracted
herpes, but then I remember I have been getting burned all day by little cherries in my sleeves and ears.
You guys dont understand--I have until aug 14 to be out of my shop--I am getting more done running on fumes than I ever did
before. I am still unemployed and the rent is all paid to the end. so I am trying to get this powertrain hung so she can roll in one
piece to my san diego destination.
I have 32 days to get as much welding/fab done on the van, disassemble my 1800 sq ft second floor and truck it away and patch the walls.
so its general quarters until its done.
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D Clymer Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2005 Posts: 2978 Location: Issaquah, WA
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:29 am Post subject: |
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I think your welds look fine. At the rate you're going, I think you'll get it put together before August 14th. Keep up the good work
David |
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vannygun Samba Member
Joined: July 26, 2006 Posts: 316 Location: Portland,or
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Stand up job! I love your posts! I just finished my 2.2 and also am dissapointed with the high rpms at highway speeds. I will just have to live with it due to budget! Keep up the good work! _________________ definition-Vanagon, "a ideal breeding ground for gremlins"
2000 jeep Cherokee sport (DD)
1990 vanagon gl 2.2 subaru(sold)
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smokin_dodge Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2008 Posts: 169 Location: East Texas
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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D Clymer wrote: |
I think your welds look fine. At the rate you're going, I think you'll get it put together before August 14th. Keep up the good work
David |
i agree - i will add though that i would bevel all of your metal when you fit it - allowing for maximum penetration - and a double pass always helps
I will say this about grinding - the way i was taught is that if the weld is cosmetic then grinding is ok - but if the weld is on a structural piece or the piece is going to be holding any form of weight - then it should not be ground
i couldnt tell on the one piece where you welded it around...but i wouldnt grind any weld seeing as this is a first time this form of swap is done
just my $.02 _________________ I do Subaru conversions - Front End work - Mechanical systems repair - PM for Details |
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