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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not use the braided original style line. Even the Conti stuff coming from Germany is only lasting about 6 months.
Get some good Gates or Goodyear hose, that you can buy at your local parts store.
I retired from the OEM fuel system industry about 2 years ago, and all the hose we used, we tested to destruction. The Goodyear and Gates hose will exceed 250 psi before it bursts.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russ Wolfe, Do you know what type of fuel lines are avaliable through GoWesty? Do they cary a specific brand or material that makes them superior to the ones I could find at AutoZone or Kragen? I am stoked ask a retired professional a question about somethig that I knnow next to nothing about.... When buying at a local autoparts store is it one size fits all or do I need to get a specific length to make sure I have enough hose to replace all of them?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely buy it back or it will never be on the road again. Sounds like the perfect opportunity to do an engine swap. Zetec or Subie.... it is all good.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

X2

Do the a engine swap.

By the time your find replacements for all the crispy parts, you would be well on your way to a Suby or whatever......
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VAN - A - GONE

No idea whose it is, it was from New Mexico and a friend sent it to me.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

syncrodoka wrote:
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Isn't the computer under the rear seat?

1.9's have them in the engine compartment.
Thanks. I had forgot that.

You say the vans 'rebuilt'. What is the condition of the engine? If you've rebuilt it recently you might wanna stick with the wbx'er. Otherwise spend your money on an engine swap.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bring it to VA I have a small shop at my house or find a Samba member that can do it on the side that lives closer it would be a lot cheaper than a shop.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things might have changed, but I seem to remember that you can't register or legally operate a salvage vehicle in Florida. Which has so far stopped me from looking at salvaged Vanagons from elsewhere. I think if the ins co totals it, it's totaled forever - in Florida, at least. Read up on this before Monday!

In any case, I'd fix it if at all possible. Pics, please.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alaric.H wrote:
Bring it to VA I have a small shop at my house or find a Samba member that can do it on the side that lives closer it would be a lot cheaper than a shop.

I totally agree, you gonna need a engine compartment loom out of a wreck, some cleaning materials, and probably a full day of labor. No reason to let this Westy die.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: total issue Reply with quote

if it gets totaled and you buy it back, you might be able to change the title over to a different name using some of the titling services out there. I know you have to do that with certain old military vehicles our here in washington state because they are technically illegal to title (m151 jeep in particular). there are options, even in Fla
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps a light at the end of the tunnel that isn't a freight train! Here is a website that sheds some light on the salvage issue: http://www.dmv.org/fl-florida/salvaged-vehicles.php. Ute, I agree - there may be options, especially if the repairs can be done on the extremely cheap. (Best kind!)
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: van is burnt Reply with quote

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Long time reader first time posting. Well here goes I got an 85 westy. I have rebuilt her she was mechanicaly sound. Took her up and down the east coast last summer, was planning to do the same this summer. The problem is fuel line gave out and she burned pretty good. Insurance company coming Monday to total her. everything in engine compartment is toast. Should I let insurance comp total her or should I try to fix her. Of course the fire department broke two windows. It really did not damage cabinets or fridge or stove, just everything plastic or rubber in the engine compartment. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks


P.S. change your fuel lines


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: van is burnt Reply with quote

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Long time reader first time posting. Well here goes I got an 85 westy. I have rebuilt her she was mechanicaly sound. Took her up and down the east coast last summer, was planning to do the same this summer. The problem is fuel line gave out and she burned pretty good. Insurance company coming Monday to total her. everything in engine compartment is toast. Should I let insurance comp total her or should I try to fix her. Of course the fire department broke two windows. It really did not damage cabinets or fridge or stove, just everything plastic or rubber in the engine compartment. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks


P.S. change your fuel lines

Ouch, you learned the hard way huh?

At least your safe, right?

Waiting for my Van Cafe fuel lines.....
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russ Wolfe wrote:
Do not use the braided original style line. Even the Conti stuff coming from Germany is only lasting about 6 months.
Get some good Gates or Goodyear hose, that you can buy at your local parts store.
I retired from the OEM fuel system industry about 2 years ago, and all the hose we used, we tested to destruction. The Goodyear and Gates hose will exceed 250 psi before it bursts.

Some part numbers to look for would help us all.

I did mine 5 years ago on my Westy and need to do it on another one now too before I drive it much.

So if some German stuff is failing, then it is time for both.

TIA,
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced all my lines with stuff from BMW, 8mm line. i dont remember the price though Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about your van. If it were mine I'd keep it and swap to a Subaru engine.

I bought 5/16" hose from Kragen, it was good quality Goodyear fuel injection hose with a liner. This is the stuff:

http://www.goodyearep.com/ProductsDetail.aspx?id=5144

I noticed the cloth covered stuff just masks when it cracks. The cloth stuff I bought didn't even last a few years; I don't remember who made it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can help you with some stuff like the harness and ECU, i have good one.

Send me a private e-mail with pictures, i will evaluate the damage and tell you if it's worthed to fix the van.

You have learned the hard way.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch that sucks. I am off to change my fuel lines!
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Salt wrote:
Ouch that sucks. I am off to change my fuel lines!


Nah, no need to:

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tripod88 and the Salt, maybe you didn't read start of thread. The owner DID change his fuel lines and they were almost new.

The "change your fuel lines!" , warning may have caused this fire.
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