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lovethatconvertible Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2008 Posts: 1434 Location: Las Vegas N. V.
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:06 pm Post subject: MDKG's Convertible |
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Well deserved there MDKG , Your Convertible Looks Awesome. |
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pancho villa Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2008 Posts: 377
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:21 pm Post subject: MDKG |
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That sunset pic is one of my favorite in my library of pics, well done sir good job |
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MDKG Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2008 Posts: 1088 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys, really appreciate it! |
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ldsvwguy Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2003 Posts: 1020 Location: Saratoga Springs, UT
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Which convertible year parts are compatible with early verts? I am especially interested in compatible years for vent wings, side and 1/4 windows. I'm trying to find out which will fit my jan, 61. _________________ "When I die, I want to die like my grandfather who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car." |
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AlteWagen Troll
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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ldsvwguy Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2003 Posts: 1020 Location: Saratoga Springs, UT
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you! _________________ "When I die, I want to die like my grandfather who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car." |
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bugio Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Italy
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hi everybody !
MDKG car it's very cool when i see the pics of his car i have a sort of deja vu...
here's my october 1959, fully restored in mid '90 and still in mint condition
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AlteWagen Troll
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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bugio wrote: |
Hi everybody !
MDKG car it's very cool when i see the pics of his car i have a sort of deja vu...
here's my october 1959, fully restored in mid '90 and still in mint condition
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love your low mounted tail lights! Any pics from the rear? |
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MDKG Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2008 Posts: 1088 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:07 am Post subject: |
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bugio wrote: |
Hi everybody !
MDKG car it's very cool when i see the pics of his car i have a sort of deja vu...
here's my october 1959, fully restored in mid '90 and still in mint condition
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Wow, great looking car ! Love the semaphores and the euro bumpers. Mine is a December 1959 so some parts must have been in the Karmann factory at the same time ! Is yours also Jade Green (hard to tell from the pics)? Is it the original color (mine was red originally)? Please show some more pics! |
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youngnstudly Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2005 Posts: 833 Location: Whine Country (SF Bay area)
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:18 am Post subject: |
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So I happened to run across some old photos a few days ago, and this was right in the middle of the stack. My mother dreamed of owning an early VW convertible since she was a small child, and after her cancer returned and took over her body, my father broke down and bought it for her. She only drove it for about 8 months before she became permanently bed ridden (during the last 7 months of her life), but those were some really happy times for our family. It's still hard to believe my father (painter and bodyman by trade) bought a finished car, especially considering that it really was somewhat of an amateur restoration that needed work (TONS of "loose ends").
He paid $5500 for it in '96 (which was "all the money" for that car back then), and it needed both floor pans, the outer skin on the top (thanks to some loose rivets in the top's linkage breaking), and the "special" limited 1960 only front trans mount. My Dad was only finding $3000 junk (mostly late model cars) during the search and he simply didn't have time to build her a nice car. The clock was ticking.
I remember the car shaking violently when my Mother would drop us off at school in the morning, and I would ask her "Why don't you have Dad fix whatever is wrong with your car?" She'd always respond with "If I tell your father about this problem, he'll take my car away from me, put it in the shop to fix whatever is wrong with it, and end up completely tearing it apart and rebuilding everything to his standards. I'll never get to drive it again." Oh how right she was!
My Father finally drove the car months later (once Mama was too sick to drive), and he was pissed that she didn't tell him about the car's problem. My Dad felt bad that my Mother drove her car like that for several months, so he and our neighbor took the engine and trans out, fabbed up the correct mount using 2 "off the shelf" mounts to make what they needed, and put the car back together in less than a week (total). Of course the difference was like night and day!
I don't think about convertibles all that often, but when I do, I always think of that car and how much fun we had in it. My Dad sold it a few years after my Mother passed away since he didn't have the room to store it. He welded the pans in and had an upholster friend fix the top's linkage and install a new outer skin (to replace the current skin that had developed some extensive tears). He sold the 'vert in 1999 for $7300 and it went somewhere "Back East." I had my learner's permit at the time and wanted that car more than anything! I still sorta want it (or one like it) even though I'm more of a ragtop fan now.
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bugio Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:51 am Post subject: |
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MDKG wrote: |
Wow, great looking car ! Love the semaphores and the euro bumpers. Mine is a December 1959 so some parts must have been in the Karmann factory at the same time ! Is yours also Jade Green (hard to tell from the pics)? Is it the original color (mine was red originally)? Please show some more pics! |
Yes it has been repaint in L349 jade green with green top while in origin was L390 gulf blue and black top .
The highness of the rear tail light give me more than a headache...at that time i had no idea of what was the correct position and i just have followed some pictures i have found in some old pics
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:57 am Post subject: |
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youngnstudly wrote: |
So I happened to run across some old photos a few days ago, and this was right in the middle of the stack. My mother dreamed of owning an early VW convertible since she was a small child, and after her cancer returned and took over her body, my father broke down and bought it for her. She only drove it for about 8 months before she became permanently bed ridden (during the last 7 months of her life), but those were some really happy times for our family. It's still hard to believe my father (painter and bodyman by trade) bought a finished car, especially considering that it really was somewhat of an amateur restoration that needed work (TONS of "loose ends").
He paid $5500 for it in '96 (which was "all the money" for that car back then), and it needed both floor pans, the outer skin on the top (thanks to some loose rivets in the top's linkage breaking), and the "special" limited 1960 only front trans mount. My Dad was only finding $3000 junk (mostly late model cars) during the search and he simply didn't have time to build her a nice car. The clock was ticking.
I remember the car shaking violently when my Mother would drop us off at school in the morning, and I would ask her "Why don't you have Dad fix whatever is wrong with your car?" She'd always respond with "If I tell your father about this problem, he'll take my car away from me, put it in the shop to fix whatever is wrong with it, and end up completely tearing it apart and rebuilding everything to his standards. I'll never get to drive it again." Oh how right she was!
My Father finally drove the car months later (once Mama was too sick to drive), and he was pissed that she didn't tell him about the car's problem. My Dad felt bad that my Mother drove her car like that for several months, so he and our neighbor took the engine and trans out, fabbed up the correct mount using 2 "off the shelf" mounts to make what they needed, and put the car back together in less than a week (total). Of course the difference was like night and day!
I don't think about convertibles all that often, but when I do, I always think of that car and how much fun we had in it. My Dad sold it a few years after my Mother passed away since he didn't have the room to store it. He welded the pans in and had an upholster friend fix the top's linkage and install a new outer skin (to replace the current skin that had developed some extensive tears). He sold the 'vert in 1999 for $7300 and it went somewhere "Back East." I had my learner's permit at the time and wanted that car more than anything! I still sorta want it (or one like it) even though I'm more of a ragtop fan now.
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Wow, that is a really nice story.
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MDKG Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2008 Posts: 1088 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:47 am Post subject: |
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bugio wrote: |
MDKG wrote: |
Wow, great looking car ! Love the semaphores and the euro bumpers. Mine is a December 1959 so some parts must have been in the Karmann factory at the same time ! Is yours also Jade Green (hard to tell from the pics)? Is it the original color (mine was red originally)? Please show some more pics! |
Yes it has been repaint in L349 jade green with green top while in origin was L390 gulf blue and black top .
The highness of the rear tail light give me more than a headache...at that time i had no idea of what was the correct position and i just have followed some pictures i have found in some old pics
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Nice! Looks really sophisticated with the green top
Is it me or is your rear window larger?
Yours
Mine
What about your engine? Is it still the original 30/36hp? |
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bugio Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at the two pics also to me seems different... You have pics of other cars to compare ? I never had any doubts about this particular of my car because everything seemed coeval and unrestored, but now I've put me a doubt ... but i've to say that all the research I've done for restoring have been done in the pre Network era and here in Italy vert of this year were and are really hard to find
Anyway tomorrow i will take two measure and will post so eventually we can compare.
Yes the engine is the original 30/36 hp. |
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bugio Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Two numbers
25 cm hight
70 cm lenght
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MDKG Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:38 am Post subject: |
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bugio wrote: |
Two numbers
25 cm hight
70 cm lenght
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Strange, my window measures 23cm x 69 cm measured from the inner side of the chrome strip (that's what you did also, right? because I cannot tell from the pictures?) Very small difference but still a difference. It does look like my window is installed a bit more tilted so that makes the appearance different but still the size is different also. Anyone who can shed a light on this? |
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bugio Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Ah ok ! From the inner side of the chrome strip i've your same distance. I think we have the same rear window.
And yes, probably they are mounted at different highness and they looks different. |
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oneeyedducky Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2012 Posts: 79 Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:31 am Post subject: |
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bugios is the later 63 and up back window as per here:
also worth noting, 62 and earlier tops had the top seams narrowed than the body line, 63 on the top seams were even with body lines and flowed o as 1 line. this is due to the window widening.the window grew again in 65
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oneeyedducky Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2012 Posts: 79 Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:34 am Post subject: |
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bugios is the later 63 and up back window as per here:
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ELHIPPIE64 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:15 am Post subject: |
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korfitts wrote: |
Does anybody know where it is possible to get the window guide rails for the doors? I've looked through the parts for sale but the is only one who sells a Complete set inc. Windows and frames. I only need the guide rails! Repop? |
good luck. they are 57-59 only and not reproduced. either find one on a car being parted or buy a complete window set from someone. try chucks convertible parts in florida- he may have one but be prepared to pay some cash for that |
Is this correct for the complete window setup (front and rear regulators,frames,vent winows, etc)??
I had a chance to pick up a 59 vert but let it go since it was missing all window hardware. |
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