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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still need to decide on those!


Wat is there to decide?

The green dot Talbots! No question about it!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:11 am    Post subject: outlaw Reply with quote

update was slow... but i did manage to do a ton of small things teh past months:-)

made e-brake set-up by using a fixed rod attched to VW Golf1 cables and an intermediate plate fitting the Original hole in teh chassis


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The oil lines between engine, filter and cooler
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making the gauges fit
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Modified the rear decklid to clear the throttle linkage
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Made and welded on a steering damper bracket
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: the OUTLAW Reply with quote

the outlaw starts to look good:-)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:21 am    Post subject: bodywork Reply with quote

and on to the annoying work of getting it Arrow straight... hate this part of the job, but needs to be done!
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spray filler again
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And Grey primer... again
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time for sanding some more!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is gonna be BIG fun to drive !!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to see you are still making headway,its looking great.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, OK.....my interest is now that rear engine cover! What are you doing there?
When we had 'extra' lids, I'd cut those (metric) louvers off and use 7 on each side of a single grille...like a Carrera...but not 5, not 6....but what is the approach now on yours? Pictures, please?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbspdstr wrote:
OK, OK.....my interest is now that rear engine cover! What are you doing there?
When we had 'extra' lids, I'd cut those (metric) louvers off and use 7 on each side of a single grille...like a Carrera...but not 5, not 6....but what is the approach now on yours? Pictures, please?



The issue I had is the throttle linkage I have for the 2110cc engine. The lever of that is in the middle and front of the engine and is barely clearing the louvres when in static postion... but touching when you pushed the throttle for 6mm. So I had to lower the louvres in teh decklid so the linkage would never touch:-)

With doing that, I still wanted a more "factory" look so it would not be super obvious to most (non 356 porsche) people that something has been done Very Happy I'm happy with how it turned out actually! will see if I can upload some more pics of it

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:13 am    Post subject: bumpers Reply with quote

was not rrally planning on running bumpers, but bought a set of really worn and rusty bumpers for a BT6 (right price:-)... time to transfrom them!
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idea it to get rid of that normal 2cm gap, and just modify thel to fit with a few mm's gap. first thing: cut them up!
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and match them to teh body
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new upper profile
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all done
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Same procedure done at the rear:
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:20 am    Post subject: PAINT TIME! Reply with quote

and after hours and hours of sanding and straightening... finally time for paint!!
Inside of the roof is now bright red, no headliner here!
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Chassis painting
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and masking again
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after interior paint, time to mask the body for final paint
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and paint goes on!
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check at the end of the paintjob
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:24 am    Post subject: paint is on Reply with quote

installed the doors to check the gaps I had spent soo much time on getting them right... looks great!
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outside look: JUST LOVE THAT COLOR!
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a reflection view of the garage:-)
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happy with teh results! so now it cqn dry and harden, but then a wetsand and polish session will take care of even more shinyness Cool Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was close !!!! it looked like it was going to be red !!!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gitchesum wrote:
That was close !!!! it looked like it was going to be red !!!


Very Happy Very Happy No way it was ever going to be a full red car!! I will stick with the red inner roof and red interior... looks way better.
Will post a pic of the slate grey versus the red interior soon, just looks amazing Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bit off topic and not for this outlaw... but still looking for the rear seat bottom sections in this tan color (these came originally with a red 356 BT6):
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anyone having a spare set of those? let me know if you do!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an extra set...I'll see what color they are.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Peter, that color looks great. Are you sure you're going to put bumpers on it. The car looks cooler without them. BTW, where in Belgium do you live ?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks very nice, great job on the bumpers. I have always thought that a more form fit would be better. You might want to think a bit more on the lack of headliner. These cars can be quite noisy with out one Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,

Thats a lot of work you have done, and yes, the door gaps look great and I like the colour. The complete car so far must have taken thousands of hours thinking what to do and then actually doing it.

Well done.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the compliments!
Indeed... I did spend a lot of hours into it, and not only building hours. The planning and thinking how I can make what fit does take up a lot of time as well. Sofar, well worth the efforts:-)

No headliner... I might still reconsider that once I drive it and it is too noisy indeed. I will put the "noise-killer" self adhesives mats on the floor and on the firewall, but that would be it sofar. lets see what the effect is with the metal roof??

bumpers... has been a case of no/yes/no/yes/.... for a while already. Now I had the chance to buy these relatively cheap so I just went and picked them up + modified before paint so I would not risk scratching a fresh paintjob. Still a lot of work to be done on these before they are ready for paint but the overall shape should be there. So I still have all the time to decide if I put them on or not. I like both looks actually... specially when these bumpers would be totally smooth, bodycolor on tight to the body. lets see.

Started on the reassembly:-) Still a ton of things to do!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 356 BT6 - an outlaw in the making Reply with quote

Peter,
I saw that you were thinking of running 944 brakes out back with a vw trans. Is there a way to do so with a vw swing axle? I'd love to run the set up out back of my 55 with my Berg 5 swing axle!
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At the rear I wanted to use a 1303S IRS gearbox due to its long gearing. Coupled to that would be the rear a-arms of a porsche 944 with the vented disks

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But after testfitting this seems not to be a good idea... unless some drastic modifications are done to the Porsche undercarriage. I do not mind to slice and dice a bit... but this seems to need too much Sad

This is teh Porsche a-arms mocked up and positionned as high up as possible. It touches the bottom of the rearseat and the rearwards chassis legs
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Testfitting with a FUCHS wheels. This sticks out too far although getting this narrowed would not be that much of an issue
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This is the look with a full tire on... even on lowest car position, this is still WAY too high! And this is harder to get lower. It would mean sectionning the chassis + a-arms.
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So my new plan of attack: a straight axle gearbox with the early narrow torsion tubes. Onto these I would then fit the Porsche 944 rear disks.
Still need to mock this up to see how much this would narrow the rear versus this IRS 944 set-up?
And how low I could make it go to check how much I would still need to section the chassis. stay tuned!

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