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borninabus
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goodyear wrangler A/Ts
(used mail truck tires)
very similar to the BFGs that i can't afford.
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drober23
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Honestly, busses do pretty well in the snow.
If you are only going to drive a little in the snow, then it should not be a problem. However, if you are planning a trip to where there is REAL snow, then you may need to worry some.
BY the way, I love my BFG All Terrain K/Os, but haven't had a chance to run them in the snow yet.
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type11969
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:25 am Post subject: Re: a little more off top |
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| boxxcar wrote: |
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If you plan on doing anything with your bus after september around here you better get familiar with this stuff soon.
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I'm just setting up to run the winter. Those RustCheck Prods are maybe only on shelves way up there? I'd like to get an innerpanel spray into the kit. but don't know if it's distributed here in the Midlantic east coast.
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According to their website, Kmart is a distributor but the Kmart website does not list it as a product they carry. Might be worth a stop in regardless? I'd like to nab some too.
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skid
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Oh, well if you're planning on going to Tofino I'd definitely get some chains. Think of how scary that 18% grade will be if there's frost on it...yikes!!!! Or maybe you can search around for used snow tires that'd fit the bus.
I wish my wetsuit still fit, I haven't been surfing in a while because of it! 
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Randy in Maine
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| Wurth makes a nice "fogging compound" just for inner panels. You might need to get it from a body shop supply house though. |
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John Of the north
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I run Continental Vanco Vikings.
I just put them on for a work trip to Northern BC/Yukon over the next couple of weeks ~6,000 km or so. Could probably wait another six weeks here on the coast. Since I got them, there is no going back to all seasons in the winter.
This photo is from last year in early November doing the same thing. Notice a green can of something?? 
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Where did you get your tires. I'm in Calgary looking for these.
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baumer99
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Where did you get your tires. I'm in Calgary looking for these.
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They are 205 65 15's, a gift from my father as he was no longer using them on his Eurovan. He purchased them from the local VW dealership in Nanaimo about 3 years ago (I used to work there ~20 yrs ago). I think OK Tire carries them as well.
I haven't shopped around for replacements yet, but I've eyed up Nokian Hakkapeliitta C or WRC's and Vredestein Comtrac Winters if you can't find the Continentals.
That Alberni Pass (Sutton Pass) can be quite a bitch in the winter, everything's fine until you start to climb and then oh shit... it snows here???
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Hippie
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Firestone Winterforce. Technically the ones I have are passenger car tires, but I don't drive it much in the winter.
These are actual M+S tires with the mountain and the snowflake emblem.
Most tires that just stamp M+S on them without the mountain/snowflake meet minimal industry requirements for tread design, but are not actually tested in the snow and mud.
Tires with the little picture of the mountain/snowflake have to pass actual driving tests to earn the emblem or it cannot legally be on there. Little known fact. |
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Batan
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If you plan on doing anything with your bus after september around here you better get familiar with this stuff soon.
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I'm gonna bump this one up with a RustCheck question. Does the heavier stuff come in a spray? My understanding is that it does, "coat and protect" as in the above picture seems to be the thicker undercarriage stuff?
Or is the one above just the drippy stuff? Problem is, I don't have a compressor and have nowhere to spray... 
And, how many spray cans will doe the bottom of a bus?
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I really like these when I go out onto the snowpacked wyoming roads:
They're the proper size/weight range Cooper SRM II. They are M&S, rated, and have worked really well. I don't drive the bus much in the winter 'cause the heat kinda sucks, but on warmer sunny days she'll come out. Compared to the POS sears tires that were on there, these rule! |
$58
http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&...htweiter=1
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skid
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| Batan wrote: |
I'm gonna bump this one up with a RustCheck question. Does the heavier stuff come in a spray? My understanding is that it does, "coat and protect" as in the above picture seems to be the thicker undercarriage stuff?
Or is the one above just the drippy stuff? Problem is, I don't have a compressor and have nowhere to spray...
And, how many spray cans will doe the bottom of a bus?
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I also have the same problem, no where to spray and no compressor. I was looking at the Canadian Tire site the other day and found this:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/4/Auto/AutoB...?locale=en
Under the reviews it says its good for heavier application. So I'm assuming yes??
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busdaddy
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| If you plan on doing anything with your bus after september around here you better get familiar with this stuff soon. |
I'm gonna bump this one up with a RustCheck question. Does the heavier stuff come in a spray? My understanding is that it does, "coat and protect" as in the above picture seems to be the thicker undercarriage stuff?
Or is the one above just the drippy stuff? Problem is, I don't have a compressor and have nowhere to spray...
And, how many spray cans will doe the bottom of a bus?
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Hmm... I'll bet it'd take 10-15+ of those little spray cans to get a good coat on everything, you could likely rent a small compressor for the day and buy the shutz gun way cheaper. It takes me 2 of the thick (green) and one of the thin (red) to do a really good job inside all the cavities and put a thin coat all over the bottom, I mix them together to thin the thick stuff out.
A thin coat on the belly softens up the old undercoat and seals everything up nice. Pick up 3' of 1/4" stiff nylon water tubing from the plumbing dept. while you're there and about 6" of 3/8" fuel line to connect it to the shutz gun for doing inside the rocker, frame and dogleg cavities, it kinda spatters out the end in a fog but one little drip is 3" in diameter the next day. Get some old cardboard for the garage floor too, it's messy and will drip for days.
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skid
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So you can put it straight on over your old undercoating, you don't have to scrape it off or anything?
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busdaddy
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It's better if you get the loose stuff off first of course, I pressure wash and let it dry for a few days or more before I go at it with the goo. You'd be amazed at the amount of sand, dust and coffee grounds like rust flakes that come out of the frame rails, outriggers and jack points, the cleaner it is the less places to trap salty moisture later.
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Batan
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| It's better if you get the loose stuff off first of course, I pressure wash and let it dry for a few days or more before I go at it with the goo. You'd be amazed at the amount of sand, dust and coffee grounds like rust flakes that come out of the frame rails, outriggers and jack points, the cleaner it is the less places to trap salty moisture later. |
So, you use the "goo" even though you don't drive in the winter at all?
And if you do drive, do you wash the undercarriage during the salty times? Does Rustcheck wash away?
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busdaddy
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I drive it if it's been raining alot or if it's cold but the roads are dry, if I know I got into some salt (river from melting snow drift, caught in a shower on a dry salted road, etc...) I'll hose it off after or go for a drive on a super rainy day when it's been raining for a few days. Up on the hoist for a pressure wash in the spring too. The Rust check doesn't wash off with a hose, a pressure washer or steam cleaner takes it off though, it does wear away in the wheel wells after a season of rain, that's when those spray cans are handy for touch up's.
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Batan
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| I drive it if it's been raining alot or if it's cold but the roads are dry, if I know I got into some salt (river from melting snow drift, caught in a shower on a dry salted road, etc...) I'll hose it off after or go for a drive on a super rainy day when it's been raining for a few days. Up on the hoist for a pressure wash in the spring too. The Rust check doesn't wash off with a hose, a pressure washer or steam cleaner takes it off though, it does wear away in the wheel wells after a season of rain, that's when those spray cans are handy for touch up's. |
Good to know, thanks. That's kinda my winter driving plan too. But man, that's a lot of cans... now I need to figure out how to get it coated. I don't think I want to run a compressor in "my" garage.
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skid
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A hoist? Geeze you are a fancy one busdaddy!
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| A hoist? Geeze you are a fancy one busdaddy! |
Welll.... hoist is kind of a relative term here at the bus farm, I do have a 4 poster I plan on installing outdoors for just such jobs, but at the moment I rely on Big Bertha when I need to tickle the underbelly of a vehicle.
Can't beat big power tools 
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