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fonzy Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2005 Posts: 126 Location: Omicron Persiei 8
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject: 4 lug to 5 lug ... options/information needed |
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okay. prolly been discussed 50 bazillion times but I just cant seem to find what I am looking for with searches...
I have late model (72) beetle, standard 4 lug drums on all 4 corners.
I WANT to run early large 5 lug wheels.
I do NOT want to use adapters.
so this leaves me with two options I have been told...
run 65-66 from drums, and (mixed answer) 5 lug rear drums with a 'spacer' of some kind.
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re drill some 4 lug drums with the big 5 lug pattern.
price wise, I have all new 4 lug drums, so I would seriously like to just get them redrilled, since I can only find 'new' 65-66 drums and they are pricey, and the rear drum solutions are vague and seem kinda 'rigged' and unsafe from what I have had explained to me so far...
anyone ever had 4 lug drums redrilled for 5 lug pattern< and if so, does it seem pretty solid? any clearance issues with the lugs/shoes/internals?
or are there some SOLID answrs on the actual conversion to actual 5 lug drums>? what specifically is needed?
thanks a bunch guys! _________________ A legend and an out of work bum sure look alot alike, Daddy.
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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It is not safe to redrill 4 lug drums for wide 5 pattern. Look on the inside of the 4 lug drum and you will see 4 raised ribs where the 4 lug bolts go. When you redrill for 5 lugs theer is not enough material to support the lugs. Your safest choice would be to use the 66-67 front drums.
If you choose early Bug 5 lug rear drums then you must run spacers that are only a few dollars, but with the eairlier drums you must also use narrower brake shoes and will reduce braking. Not a smart Idea on a heavier Super.
The 73-74 rear Thing drums are a direct fit without and spacers, but they are pricy too, around $100 each new. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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fonzy Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2005 Posts: 126 Location: Omicron Persiei 8
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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now THAT sir is a GREAT idear...
this is for another vehicle, snot mine.
cool to see someone else made that work out:) _________________ A legend and an out of work bum sure look alot alike, Daddy.
jhicken wrote: |
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fonzy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:25 am Post subject: |
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vwracerdave wrote: |
The 73-74 rear Thing drums are a direct fit without and spacers, but they are pricy too, around $100 each new. |
cool thanks dave! awesome answers... really helps.
I hear there are some bus (type 2) rear drums that work as well>? anyoneknow are those a bolt on or need modifications? _________________ A legend and an out of work bum sure look alot alike, Daddy.
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Where can I get those hole covers? |
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fonzy Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2005 Posts: 126 Location: Omicron Persiei 8
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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I made them out of some plastic chip n salsa bowls from wal mart... were like 2 or 3 bucks each. kinda heavy plastic. i did a write up/how to a long time ago, but cant find it anymore...
i guess he was pokin a little fun at me about gettin some myself..
and yeah before ya ask,, wal mart only carried them very briefly as a seaonal thing so.. no i dont know where to get anymore:(
but
all i did was get a really good eyeball at the wheels and just kinda, ya know, kept my eyes open for something plastic or really thin metal that would be easy to cut n trim to fit.
good luck! _________________ A legend and an out of work bum sure look alot alike, Daddy.
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spinster Samba Member
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fonzy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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PM sent spinster... _________________ A legend and an out of work bum sure look alot alike, Daddy.
jhicken wrote: |
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eschmi Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:32 am Post subject: |
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On a similar topic I have an odd question... rebuilding an old Imp and the rear end is from a 65 beetle and has 4 lug drums, front end is from a 1960 beetle and has 5 lug drums, if I got ahold of a pair or front 4 lug drums would I be able to run them on the standard old front end? Doing it on a budget and all the wheels I like for it are in 4x130mm of course... Thanks in advance! |
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cfvwtuner Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2005 Posts: 438 Location: Central Connecticut
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:54 am Post subject: |
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As far as I know, 4 lug drums wont fit on link pin spindles |
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