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 Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject: 4 lug to 5 lug ... options/information needed |
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okay. prolly been discussed 50 bazillion times but I just cant seem to find what I am looking for with searches...
I have late model (72) beetle, standard 4 lug drums on all 4 corners.
I WANT to run early large 5 lug wheels.
I do NOT want to use adapters.
so this leaves me with two options I have been told...
run 65-66 from drums, and (mixed answer) 5 lug rear drums with a 'spacer' of some kind.
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re drill some 4 lug drums with the big 5 lug pattern.
price wise, I have all new 4 lug drums, so I would seriously like to just get them redrilled, since I can only find 'new' 65-66 drums and they are pricey, and the rear drum solutions are vague and seem kinda 'rigged' and unsafe from what I have had explained to me so far...
anyone ever had 4 lug drums redrilled for 5 lug pattern< and if so, does it seem pretty solid? any clearance issues with the lugs/shoes/internals?
or are there some SOLID answrs on the actual conversion to actual 5 lug drums>? what specifically is needed?
thanks a bunch guys!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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It is not safe to redrill 4 lug drums for wide 5 pattern. Look on the inside of the 4 lug drum and you will see 4 raised ribs where the 4 lug bolts go. When you redrill for 5 lugs theer is not enough material to support the lugs. Your safest choice would be to use the 66-67 front drums.
If you choose early Bug 5 lug rear drums then you must run spacers that are only a few dollars, but with the eairlier drums you must also use narrower brake shoes and will reduce braking. Not a smart Idea on a heavier Super.
The 73-74 rear Thing drums are a direct fit without and spacers, but they are pricy too, around $100 each new.
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fonzy
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now THAT sir is a GREAT idear...
this is for another vehicle, snot mine.
cool to see someone else made that work out:)
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fonzy
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| vwracerdave wrote: | | The 73-74 rear Thing drums are a direct fit without and spacers, but they are pricy too, around $100 each new. |
cool thanks dave! awesome answers... really helps.
I hear there are some bus (type 2) rear drums that work as well>? anyoneknow are those a bolt on or need modifications?
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fonzy
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I made them out of some plastic chip n salsa bowls from wal mart... were like 2 or 3 bucks each. kinda heavy plastic. i did a write up/how to a long time ago, but cant find it anymore...
i guess he was pokin a little fun at me about gettin some myself..
and yeah before ya ask,, wal mart only carried them very briefly as a seaonal thing so.. no i dont know where to get anymore:(
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all i did was get a really good eyeball at the wheels and just kinda, ya know, kept my eyes open for something plastic or really thin metal that would be easy to cut n trim to fit.
good luck!
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PM sent spinster...
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Didn't realise it was you fonzy who made them out of plastic bowls... worked alright for a quick fix.