Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
My 65 Westy Restoration (Pic Heavy)
Page: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Forum Index -> Split Bus Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
jpeters
Samba Member


Joined: May 06, 2005
Posts: 1025
Location: Woodsfield, Ohio
jpeters is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:28 pm    Post subject: My 65 Westy Restoration (Pic Heavy) Reply with quote

I've been wanting to start this dicussion for some time and I'm even more eager to get this restoration started, though, it isn't going to start for some time.

First task will be getting the body work completed. I would like to send her down to metwiz, so I'm using this as a vehicle to document the current condition and to post pictures that I can send to him to review. Hopefully, he and I can then discuss where we are and where we can go from here.

Here she is:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
'73 Westy (dual stock carbs, SVDA w/ compufire)
'68 Westy http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=484180
'65 Westy SO-42 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=435614
'65 Bug
'63 Bug

neverdnf on Instagram
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
jpeters
Samba Member


Joined: May 06, 2005
Posts: 1025
Location: Woodsfield, Ohio
jpeters is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'll just be replacing the nose and valance completely:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Inner valance:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
'73 Westy (dual stock carbs, SVDA w/ compufire)
'68 Westy http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=484180
'65 Westy SO-42 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=435614
'65 Bug
'63 Bug

neverdnf on Instagram
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
jpeters
Samba Member


Joined: May 06, 2005
Posts: 1025
Location: Woodsfield, Ohio
jpeters is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Front Floors:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Cargo Floors:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Cargo Door Bottoms:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
'73 Westy (dual stock carbs, SVDA w/ compufire)
'68 Westy http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=484180
'65 Westy SO-42 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=435614
'65 Bug
'63 Bug

neverdnf on Instagram
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
jpeters
Samba Member


Joined: May 06, 2005
Posts: 1025
Location: Woodsfield, Ohio
jpeters is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Passenger Rocker:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Driver Side Rocker:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



Well, that's were I'm at right now. Like I said, this is going to be a pretty slow project.

The bus came with a complete single port engine and a complete dual port engine, as well as a dual port longblock. I'll be looking over the engines in the near future and making a decision which one will be getting the rebuild. Right now, I'm leaning single port.
_________________
'73 Westy (dual stock carbs, SVDA w/ compufire)
'68 Westy http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=484180
'65 Westy SO-42 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=435614
'65 Bug
'63 Bug

neverdnf on Instagram
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
KWZ
Samba Member


Joined: July 11, 2004
Posts: 1341
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
KWZ is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck on the project. I love watching buses like this get the extreme makeover. The nose on that thing is especially nasty.... Total "Bogata Look"
_________________
'57 sunroof Standard
'63 15 window
'65 Westy SO44
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
chrisflstf
Samba Member


Joined: February 10, 2004
Posts: 3412
Location: San Diego
chrisflstf is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet Gerson gets a woody when he sees a bus like this Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
vws-microcars4jim
Samba Member


Joined: September 25, 2005
Posts: 337
Location: Chicago
vws-microcars4jim is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see at least $3-4K in green metal needed.
Nice riveted rockers. Shocked
Removing the lacquer primer and bondo might help the body evaluation.

Good luck with the project,
Jim
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
gondiwindi
Samba Member


Joined: December 12, 2006
Posts: 1192
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
gondiwindi is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will sell this bus before you restore it. Just my prediction. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
kombisutra
Samba Member


Joined: October 02, 2003
Posts: 4127
Location: San Anselmo, 10 miles North Of San Francisco
kombisutra is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpeters wrote:

Well, that's were I'm at right now. Like I said, this is going to be a pretty slow project.

The bus came with a complete single port engine and a complete dual port engine, as well as a dual port longblock. I'll be looking over the engines in the near future and making a decision which one will be getting the rebuild. Right now, I'm leaning single port.


Sentimentality is the downfall of man. If you are unfortunate enough -as I've been with 90% of the buses that have come my way- to have grown a sentimental attachment to this... this Ohio Beauty, my condolences, this bus is significantly horrible. That you are considering having the work done indicates the true possibility that you're very well heeled, and if that's the case, all the power to you, this industry can use the money, but many of us have cut up better buses.

On a positive note, you could sell the Ohio Beauty to -well, I'm not sure who- and you can keep the engines to use on the bus that you actually WILL get serious with. DO NOT BE SENTIMENTAL ABOUT THIS BUS. Bury your dead, move on.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
madcitymcflyer
Samba Member


Joined: February 18, 2005
Posts: 134
Location: Madison, WI
madcitymcflyer is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pull your SO-42 interior, bag and tag each and every bracket, clip, screw.
Compare what you have to the SO-42 interior in the Samba archive.
Did that poptop leak the 20 or so years your bus sat outside? If so, the
laminate is probably shot. If not, preserve the interior away from water and rodents.

By the looks of this bus, the shell is a goner, unless you plan on spending a boatload of greenbacks. Where do you start???

You could find a clean '65-'67 Kombi or Standard and transfer a good interior into it with some fitting, or else part out the shell, sell the good
interior Westy components and drive train and find a useable safe-to-drive Westy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bugginmiami
Samba Member


Joined: February 26, 2001
Posts: 1414

bugginmiami is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madcitymcflyer wrote:
Pull your SO-42 interior, bag and tag each and every bracket, clip, screw.

You could find a clean '65-'67 Kombi or Standard and transfer a good interior into it with some fitting, or else part out the shell, sell the good
interior Westy components and drive train and find a useable safe-to-drive Westy.


This is some good advice.
_________________
* ---www.volksblast.com--- *
* -- South Miami - Feb 12th 2017 *


johnnypan wrote:
Never mess with a cat who smiles for his mug shot..he gives way less of a fuck than you do..
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Major Woody
Samba Enigma


Joined: December 04, 2002
Posts: 9010
Location: Portland, OR
Major Woody is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thoughts as well. That shell is not worth repairing. It needs a new nose, all new floors, frame parts, rockers, doors, doglegs. And look at the gutters. What will be left? If it were a more desirable model, it would be worth it. But that thing is a mess.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
dawerks
Samba Member


Joined: September 15, 2010
Posts: 2349

dawerks is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devils advocate;

Your frame is pretty decent. I say that because it looks like the po cut the corners off and hacked the outriggers/tophats. The inner rocker looks pretty nice! Usually they are non existent.

I personally would fix the outriggers/top hats. And LEAVE the rockers etc alone. Then fix the drivers side floor a little bit and drive it. Get it running/driving/stopping and then drive it till it's no more. The nose is horrible, but, eeeh, it's ok. Same with the rockers etc. It looks really bad but it's not that terrible. Spray with some anti-rust and rollllll it. That bus could easily be around another 10 years.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
velvetgreen
Samba Member


Joined: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2735
Location: Canada
velvetgreen is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

x3 on no sentimantality - to get that bus back to a drveable state will be muy greenbacks. a quick look tells me that the bottom 6"-12" of the bus inner and outer would need replacing.. we're talking the nose, inner outer valance, inner outer rockets, doglegs blah blah blah and that it not even tackling, tires, mechanical, running gera blah blah blah.

i agree grab every campmobile piece you can get off of it (including drilling out the rivetted front curtain rods) and find a better body to transfer to a better bus@!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Eastern Westy
Samba Member


Joined: August 05, 2006
Posts: 5
Location: SoLanCo Pa.
Eastern Westy is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My '66 Westy was in a very simualar condition when i dragged its rusty carcass home. I am a sentamental kind of guy, i don't beleive I could have finished the bus if I didn't have an emotional attatchment to see it through.
I saw it as an artistic sculpture in sheetmetal.
Anyway it took 10 long years and lots of frustration and cash, but now its finished and i couldn't be more happier.
Good luck....you will need it.[/img]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
the.fordhams
Samba Member


Joined: February 11, 2004
Posts: 471
Location: Charlotte, NC
the.fordhams is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick look says outriggers, top hats, jacking points, the outer cargo floors, lower nose inner and out, window beds, some dogleg partss, front floor at least 1/4's, front seat belt point - this is already 100+ hours. Factor in paid time and you get an idea of the end bill for this Bus. Just go in knowing this will hurt.

Also be observant of the roof gutter - there looks to be issues there.

Please say the paperwork is intact and everything matches.

Good luck.
_________________
63 OG Turkis Bug project
65 OG Safari Beige Notch
65 OG Pearl SO42 Patina
67 SO42 welding project
03 Eurovan Weekender
08 Touareg 2 V6

WANTED :
Bob King VW dealer Wilmington NC dealer tag surround and any Literature for 03 Weekender
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
turkis-deluxe
Samba Security


Joined: January 06, 2001
Posts: 1545
Location: 94518
turkis-deluxe is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW!! That thing is seriously rough.....you'd be better buying my westy project that is almost done with all metal work (minimal to start) and body work on going.
And mine is fully complete and ten times that bus and cheaper in the long run.

PM sent.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
66busman
Samba Motorcyclist


Joined: September 14, 2006
Posts: 1166
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
66busman is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of just fixing it enough to drive it, and leaving the cosmetic stuff for later. So, outriggers, inner rockers, floors, drive. Restoring this bus completely would simply not be worth it, at least at this point in time.
_________________
'66 SO-42
'73 Bay
'75 Type 181
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
jpeters
Samba Member


Joined: May 06, 2005
Posts: 1025
Location: Woodsfield, Ohio
jpeters is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...thanks for all the kind words. I guess this is a glass half empty kind of crowd (with maybe one or two exceptions). I realize it will be a long road ahead.

Media blasting starts on Sunday. Cool
_________________
'73 Westy (dual stock carbs, SVDA w/ compufire)
'68 Westy http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=484180
'65 Westy SO-42 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=435614
'65 Bug
'63 Bug

neverdnf on Instagram
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
gondiwindi
Samba Member


Joined: December 12, 2006
Posts: 1192
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
gondiwindi is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for you pal!!

That's another bus saved so thank you sir Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Split Bus All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Page 1 of 5

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.