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virtanen Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:03 am Post subject: Anyone has a pictures of Oval running boards? |
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I'm planning to make some running boards for oval and now I'm looking for pictures of original Oval running board. What are the differences against split ones?
- Is the rubber fastening made by separate spot welded stripe or is it already the same material with the board as later ones?
- Is there any stiffener pressings on the retaining side (the side against car body)?
- Is the molding fixed by 8 or 5 tabs?
- Is earlier oval RB (1953-55) different than later one (1956-57)?
Thanks,
Mika
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Schwing Samba Member
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RareAir Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Schwing wrote: |
What years did the running boards change oval vs. big window?
For example would a 63 running board work on a 57 (assuming you add the thick 18mm trim?) |
1953-66 running boards are just the same size and shape and all use the 18mm trim. Only visible difference between 1956/57 versus 1958-66 is the running board rubber mat. _________________ 1947 Typ 11a
1954 Typ 117
1956 Typ 151
1959 Typ 117
1959 Typ 265
1961 356B
1966 Typ 151
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Schwing Samba Member
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Trevor P Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Schwing wrote: |
Nice thanks. So who sells the proper mat for a 56/57? Wolfsburg West? |
I got mine from BBT, but it looks like WW has them also.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111821531AGR _________________ 53 Canadian standard oval
56 Wolfsburg PG/SG
57 Oval, 2332 & Berg 5
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Schwing Samba Member
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virtanen Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:29 am Post subject: |
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RareAir wrote: |
Schwing wrote: |
What years did the running boards change oval vs. big window?
For example would a 63 running board work on a 57 (assuming you add the thick 18mm trim?) |
1953-66 running boards are just the same size and shape and all use the 18mm trim. Only visible difference between 1956/57 versus 1958-66 is the running board rubber mat. |
There must be some change happen approx. 1960 when also front wing shape changed where RB touchs the wing. But possibly other modifications too during early/late oval. If seen some pictures to clear up these things. |
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My57Oval Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hi. I know these pictures aren't great, and will take better ones if it looks like these may be original running boards so as to give more detail.
They are pretty heavyweight and have strengthening ribs on the face of the board that mates with the rocker. The top side is more glossy than satin, the underside is flat because its been repainted at some point, has rust pits.
New boards would be nice, but if these are original I'll fix them up with the new mats I bought.
Rob |
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OLDveedubs Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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RareAir wrote: |
Schwing wrote: |
What years did the running boards change oval vs. big window?
For example would a 63 running board work on a 57 (assuming you add the thick 18mm trim?) |
1953-66 running boards are just the same size and shape and all use the 18mm trim. Only visible difference between 1956/57 versus 1958-66 is the running board rubber mat. |
Are you sure of the years?
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111821531AGR _________________ -Ryan
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My57Oval Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 1:54 am Post subject: |
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A '57 doesn't use 18mm trim. It uses the larger 30mm trim I believe. No?
Rob |
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virtanen Samba Member
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My57Oval Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 5:28 am Post subject: |
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OK. I will get some better pictures and a video that will provide more detail.
Rob |
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janerick3 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:12 am Post subject: |
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The rubber mats were the same at least through February 1959. The plastic mats were in use by December 1960.
Rob's running boards are definitely Oval era. I believe late 1959-up running boards are slightly longer to account for the redesigned front fender. The front fenders on my home-market Feb '59 were stamped from worn-out dies, as the metal around the buckets was crinkled from the factory, but hidden by the headlamp rings.
I have originals of both oval era and early 1960s running boards that I can measure for comparison (the ends are slightly different). _________________ Thanks,
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rillette Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Slightly off topic, but when were colored RB mats introduced?
Thanks. |
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Bruce Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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janerick3 wrote: |
The rubber mats were the same at least through February 1959. The plastic mats were in use by December 1960. |
Original VW running boards have always had rubber mats. Never plastic. _________________
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janerick3 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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rillette wrote: |
Slightly off topic, but when were colored RB mats introduced?
Thanks. |
1961 model year. _________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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janerick3 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote: |
janerick3 wrote: |
The rubber mats were the same at least through February 1959. The plastic mats were in use by December 1960. |
Original VW running boards have always had rubber mats. Never plastic. |
Here is a shrunken black plastic mat from an original 1961-66 running board w/the VW part number clearly visible. The ribs on plastic mats ran end-to-end; the ribs on 10/1952-1960 rubber mats ended 2cm from each end.
_________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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janerick3 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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The running board on the left is original Jan '55; the one on the right is original 1961-66. Note the difference in the shape of the holes.
The top running board is 1961-66, the bottom is Jan 1955. Inside lengths are the same (following the contour). Outside length of the Jan '55 board is 1375mm; the 1961-66 board is 1369mm. _________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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Bruce Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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janerick3 wrote: |
Bruce wrote: |
janerick3 wrote: |
The rubber mats were the same at least through February 1959. The plastic mats were in use by December 1960. |
Original VW running boards have always had rubber mats. Never plastic. |
Here is a shrunken black plastic mat from an original 1961-66 running board w/the VW part number clearly visible. The ribs on plastic mats ran end-to-end; the ribs on 10/1952-1960 rubber mats ended 2cm from each end.
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It's not plastic. _________________
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rillette Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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janerick3 wrote: |
rillette wrote: |
Slightly off topic, but when were colored RB mats introduced?
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1961 model year. |
Thanks janerick |
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