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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OK guys, stop chuckling. Tires ordered: 205.70.15
That's as close to the 205.75.15 as I could get! I now understand how all the dimensions work and these puppies installed will be 26.29 inches tall and 8.07inches wide!! Nice!!!
My only concern is that stock 15 inch rims are 4.5 inches wide and my "wanna be Porsche" rims are about 6.75 wide. The rims have been on the bus 25 years with 165 tires but I think I'll be ok.
Thanks everyone, I'll let you know the result.


whats the load rating of the tires? you dont want camry tires on a bus...corners would be very soft and the bus will lean alot...stronger tire means better handling and control. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

95S rating meaning 1,499lbs. Plus, whitewall!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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95S rating meaning 1,499lbs. Plus, whitewall!


As a rule of thumb, the tires on your bus should be rated 100 or higher for load. You'll probably be just fine, but reinforced sidewalls and higher ratings make for a much nicer driving experience.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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95S rating meaning 1,499lbs. Plus, whitewall!


i bet the load rating is going to be better than the 165s it currently has
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this a master cylinder with a brake booster?

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What is the deal with the upper tube on the beam? It looks swollen!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BusFactory.com wrote:
95S rating meaning 1,499lbs. Plus, whitewall!


i bet the load rating is going to be better than the 165s it currently has


Agreed. Way, way better.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this a master cylinder with a brake booster?



What is the deal with the upper tube on the beam? It looks swollen!


I wondered that, too. I just chalked it up to greasy grungy build up. It would be interesting to see that beam all cleaned off.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:36 pm    Post subject: Looking for stock ride. Reply with quote

OK, newly ordered tires are on the bus.....but now they're to big!! To much offset at the rear puts them about half an inch from the metal of the bus. At the front they fill the wheel arch. They're 205-70-15's. Just over 26 inches tall. (27 inches is original)

If I change to 15" vw bus wheels I know it'll move them in at the back and work but will it work at the front where they just look to big? Shame, cause I liked the chromes.
I know the bus originally came with 14"s but is the wheel arch space the same as earlier buses that came with 15"s?

Thanks for the advice!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does it rub when you drive it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for stock ride. Reply with quote

BusFactory.com wrote:
OK, newly ordered tires are on the bus.....but now they're to big!! To much offset at the rear puts them about half an inch from the metal of the bus. At the front they fill the wheel arch. They're 205-70-15's. Just over 26 inches tall. (27 inches is original)

If I change to 15" vw bus wheels I know it'll move them in at the back and work but will it work at the front where they just look to big? Shame, cause I liked the chromes.
I know the bus originally came with 14"s but is the wheel arch space the same as earlier buses that came with 15"s?

Thanks for the advice!

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looks awesome, i say: make it work. I ran the same wheels for years on my 66 westy.

this should totally work. Peeps are running even bigger tires.

Worst case roll the rear wheel well lip, or just pull on it a little.

i always had Bilstein gas shocks in the rear, though, they pick the bus up a little in the rear....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bug wheels have the wrong offset. You could have a company re-hoop them with a better offset but that costs additional money.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It hasn't been driven since it was parked in 1988!! I don't think the rear is rubbing but clearance is less than the width of a finger. In the front a full turn doesn't seem to touch.....but it's just very close! (especially the spike part behind the front wheel on the body of the bus)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It hasn't been driven since it was parked in 1988!! I don't think the rear is rubbing but clearance is less than the width of a finger. In the front a full turn doesn't seem to touch.....but it's just very close! (especially the spike part behind the front wheel on the body of the bus)


there is a body seam behind the front wheel, you can simply hit that with a hammer... I have had one bus where i needed to do this, and just on one side.

a finger is a LOT. this is mechanical, half an inch is half an inch, all the time Smile

It will be fine
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Running 205/75-15's on my single cab with the same clearance you have and they don't rub at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It hasn't been driven since it was parked in 1988!! I don't think the rear is rubbing but clearance is less than the width of a finger. In the front a full turn doesn't seem to touch.....but it's just very close! (especially the spike part behind the front wheel on the body of the bus)


And? Are you driving it yet?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I slid under the bus while the girlfriend turned the wheel. The offset of the wheels combined with the size of the tires just wont work. In the back I can live with just a tiny gap between the tire and the bus, but in the front it touches at half turn. I looked at and measured many buses at Buses By the Bridge. So.....I've decided to get a set of 15 inch VW wheels for her. I already picked up one at Buses By the Bridge for $10....just 3 to get!
I think stock will look good to.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I slid under the bus while the girlfriend turned the wheel. The offset of the wheels combined with the size of the tires just wont work. In the back I can live with just a tiny gap between the tire and the bus, but in the front it touches at half turn. I looked at and measured many buses at Buses By the Bridge. So.....I've decided to get a set of 15 inch VW wheels for her. I already picked up one at Buses By the Bridge for $10....just 3 to get!
I think stock will look good to.


interesting, i ran those same style wheels for years, all they really do is push the wheels out, when you turn them they sweep a little more area than the narrower stock wheels, but, still, never had an issue. Stock 15s will look good too. paint them silver white or so?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, original cream color I think. It'll still look good. I love my new van!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yea, original cream color I think. It'll still look good. I love my new BUS!



Fixed that for you.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:48 am    Post subject: excess front positive camber Reply with quote

I searched for an answer, but was unable to locate it, even in the Bentley manual.

I recently purchased a '57 SCab and noticed severe feathering on the front tires. The alignment shop confirmed toe was off by two degrees. They were able to correct the toe and the truck rolls straight, but there was no way for them to address loads of positive camber front and rear. The alignment tech blamed the KYBs for the camber, but that doesn't compute to me...

I've checked the height on the rear. One side is slightly lower than the other and I've found all the information for measuring and repositioning the spring plates & torsion bars to see if they're causing excess camber in the rear.

Is it really possible right-size gas shocks are the problem?
He says "switch to oil shocks and I'll recheck everything for free." He didn't try selling me shocks - he understands I'm buying the parts online and doing the work myself.
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