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vwsteve Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Can the dropped spindles be put back to stock? If so, where can I find a "how to"? I have a 66. Thanks. |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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vwsteve wrote: |
Can the dropped spindles be put back to stock? If so, where can I find a "how to"? I have a 66. Thanks. |
In most cases, yes. You will need access to a press, as well as various pieces to facilitate pressing them apart. When they are pressed back together you need a way to make sure the kingpins are aligned with each other. The standard rebuild is outlined in detail in the Bentley manual. If you have any specific questions, feel free to drop me a PM. |
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vwsteve Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2004 Posts: 1047 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Is that section of the Bentley manual available somewhere online? |
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Stanagon Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2003 Posts: 4186 Location: Boston, MA
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OCWest Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Westminster , California
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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I recently purchased a 66 microbus and the previous owner had drop spindles. Actually the whole beam looks new but thankfully it's a standard beam and not shortened. The rear is running straight axles and I actually prefer it because I can cruise Southern California freeways with the speed of traffic (most of the time) I won't change that! The spindles I plan on ditching and look forward to not hitting my front bumper on the street when leaving my driveway. He also had some Wide 5 chrome bug wheels that are about to come off. I found some bus wheels that are going to look awesome once I get them back from the sandblaster. Beauty rings and a new set of tires will make her shine. Any suggestions on brand tires? I've heard of Coker tires and they are local.
Does anybody object to installing a Westy interior in a Standard bus? I have access to a complete Westfalia interior including table and cabinets. They have offered me the windows too but I kind of like my pop outs. _________________ 1974 project Thing |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20271 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Larser wrote: |
I recently purchased a 66 microbus and the previous owner had drop spindles. Actually the whole beam looks new but thankfully it's a standard beam and not shortened. The rear is running straight axles and I actually prefer it because I can cruise Southern California freeways with the speed of traffic (most of the time) I won't change that! The spindles I plan on ditching and look forward to not hitting my front bumper on the street when leaving my driveway. He also had some Wide 5 chrome bug wheels that are about to come off. I found some bus wheels that are going to look awesome once I get them back from the sandblaster. Beauty rings and a new set of tires will make her shine. Any suggestions on brand tires? I've heard of Coker tires and they are local.
Does anybody object to installing a Westy interior in a Standard bus? I have access to a complete Westfalia interior including table and cabinets. They have offered me the windows too but I kind of like my pop outs. |
If you put stock spindles back on the front, you will need to raise the rear to match. Those straight axles won't work for that, so you will either need to source a stock rear axle setup with RGB's, or do a custom IRS rear suspension to get the height you need back there.
Good move getting rid of the chrome beetle wheels. Tires are a subject of much discussion. Check the FAQ'S on here for a couple of threads with much advice on tires.
If you have access to the Westy interior, and that is what you want, by all means get it and install it. But save all of your original pieces to re-install at a later date if you choose. _________________ nothing |
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:26 am Post subject: |
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When I got my bus, it had no shocks, so I got the stock black Sachs shocks. The ride is fine, but the front of the bus sits just slightly higher than the rear. It is barely noticeable, but still... Tire pressure in the rear is lower than the front as recommended, but I'd like to have the bus sit even.
Any ideas?/ _________________ -Adam
'59 Mango Bus - getting buried in it
'69 Bug - sold and highly missed, so it stays in the sig |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20271 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:34 am Post subject: |
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otis_bartleh wrote: |
When I got my bus, it had no shocks, so I got the stock black Sachs shocks. The ride is fine, but the front of the bus sits just slightly higher than the rear. It is barely noticeable, but still... Tire pressure in the rear is lower than the front as recommended, but I'd like to have the bus sit even.
Any ideas?/ |
As a general rule, shocks have nothing to do with ride height. It seems that sometimes a gas charged shock will tend to "climb up" if the bus has been sitting for awhile.
Sounds like you either need to raise your rear ride hide to match, or lower the front a little more. _________________ nothing |
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7047 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:54 am Post subject: |
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if your bus is really heavy in the rear, i would buy the yellow bilstein gas shocks, they are perfect for the rear.
If your bus is not heavy (as in empty, or not a camper) then you just need to raise it up with the torsion adjustment. _________________ regards
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69809 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:31 am Post subject: |
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otis_bartleh wrote: |
When I got my bus, it had no shocks, so I got the stock black Sachs shocks. The ride is fine, but the front of the bus sits just slightly higher than the rear. It is barely noticeable, but still... Tire pressure in the rear is lower than the front as recommended, but I'd like to have the bus sit even. |
Rear has probably sagged and need to be reset.
Tire Pressure is higher in the rear...
I picked a random owner's manual to show an example, here's the 66 manual
28 up front, 33 in the rear. Add 2-3 psi for radials, as long as it doesn't exceed the max. sidewall rating of the tire. _________________ How to Post Photos
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:54 am Post subject: |
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cdennisg wrote: |
As a general rule, shocks have nothing to do with ride height. It seems that sometimes a gas charged shock will tend to "climb up" if the bus has been sitting for awhile.
Sounds like you either need to raise your rear ride hide to match, or lower the front a little more. |
mandraks wrote: |
if your bus is really heavy in the rear, i would buy the yellow bilstein gas shocks, they are perfect for the rear.
If your bus is not heavy (as in empty, or not a camper) then you just need to raise it up with the torsion adjustment. |
EverettB wrote: |
Rear has probably sagged and need to be reset.
Tire Pressure is higher in the rear... |
My bus is more rear heavy with some camper stuff. And the difference is less than an inch, and not even noticeable to most. Had thought about a torsion adjustment, but wasn't sure if that would be a bit much for the difference I'm having. Which brings me to:
Now, Everett, thanks for showing me that, I feel like an idiot! I had checked on tire pressures when I got my tires, and must have reversed them in my head, or something, but I bet that's the issue. Damn... I'll put the proper pressure in, I really can't believe that one... _________________ -Adam
'59 Mango Bus - getting buried in it
'69 Bug - sold and highly missed, so it stays in the sig |
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Big Bill Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 1782 Location: Santa Rosa, Ca
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:06 am Post subject: |
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So the tire pressure listed is for bias type tires I belive. What would we run the pressure for radials? I have been running 32 front and rear for years(radials) anyone try a lower pressure on the front? |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20271 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Big Bill wrote: |
So the tire pressure listed is for bias type tires I belive. What would we run the pressure for radials? I have been running 32 front and rear for years(radials) anyone try a lower pressure on the front? |
EverettB wrote: |
28 up front, 33 in the rear. Add 2-3 psi for radials, as long as it doesn't exceed the max. sidewall rating of the tire. |
For the record, when I run stock size radials on a bus, I use a C, D, or LT rated tire. I tend to run closer to 40 pounds up front, and 45 in the rear. _________________ nothing |
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Soul Built Pimpin' Aint Easy
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1636 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:21 am Post subject: |
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mandraks wrote: |
...I would buy the yellow bilstein gas shocks, they are perfect for the rear.
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I tried searching but came up with some oddball stuff. Got a part number by chance? |
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7047 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Soul Built wrote: |
mandraks wrote: |
...I would buy the yellow bilstein gas shocks, they are perfect for the rear.
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I tried searching but came up with some oddball stuff. Got a part number by chance? |
google bilstein shocks volkswagen
BS-F4-B46-0032-H0
Bilstein Shock - Front VOLKSWAGEN TYPE 2 BUS & TRANSPORTER 55-78 , Heavy Duty Bilstein Part# BS-F4-B46-0032-H0
BS-F4-B46-0040-H1
Bilstein Shock - Rear VOLKSWAGEN TYPE 2 BUS & TRANSPORTER 55-67 , Heavy Duty Bilstein Part# BS-F4-B46-0040-H1
everybody has them, they also fit beetles, and Type 3
All you should need are the rear ones, front does not need a firm shock...
looking for a glowing review?
http://www.gowesty.com/library_article.php?id=310 _________________ regards
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lightice Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2012 Posts: 599
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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What's the degree for the front trailing arms with regards to the floor when loaded?
Also, what's the ground clearance from the floor to the steering box?
On a side note, has anyone used these front torsion springs from WW?
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211411033E |
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nyr208 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 68 Location: Long Beach,NY
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have a stupid question and have searched the forums so please bear with me.
I am currently looking for a bus, I know the ballpark height of a stock bus is 6 ft 3 inches. What is the height with a full roof rack I understand there are different options but I want to get a ballpark idea to see if it would fit in my garage with the rack on.
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cru62 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Depends entirely on the height of your door opening, the type of door (sectional, roll-up or solid) and the type of rack. I have an 8' tall opening, so no worries. You most likely have a 7' opening. If the door hangs down at all past the top of the opening you won't fit. Even if you have a clear opening it will be tight and most likely not enough clearance. Measure what the clear distance is and post that. _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
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nyr208 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Just measured. One inch shy of 7 feet. Looks like a no go? Really don't want to have a lowered bus. Is it a hassle to take the rack on and off? Would only use it once in a while. |
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3275 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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It won't fit unless you are lowered.
Racks are easy to take on/off, I do that with my Westy and it's rack which sits in the garage rafters when not on the bus. Just remember to take it off before pulling in to the garage! I actually have a stop sign I put in place any time I put the rack on to remind me. _________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches |
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