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kitcarson Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2010 Posts: 56 Location: Eastern Idaho
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:52 am Post subject: Pop Top Repair and Fixing Holes |
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I am a new owner of a 1970 pop top campmobile. The bay has been sitting for a while and the mice have eaten a couple of holes in the canvas (ok maybe more then a couple, but not more then 6 or 7....). I am not ready to replace the whole canvas yet. Is there any way to fix those holes for now? I have cleaned it up substantially since this photo and removed all the mice "stuff" and scrubbed the canvas.
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ccpalmer Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2006 Posts: 3850 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Hmm; I count 25 holes... you could sew on patches; or glue them on with marine silicone. _________________ '71 Westy |
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MidWesty79 Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2011 Posts: 485 Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin, US
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:24 am Post subject: |
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There looks to be quite a few holes in that canvas. My canvas came with 4 or 5 good sized holes when I bought my bus and I sewed on patches made from heavy duty plaid fabric using UV resistant thread. It's actually a bit of a pain in the ass to sew it, unless you remove the canvas, you essentially need one person on the outside and one person on in the inside passing the needle back and forth. It's trickier than it sounds, but can be done (took us several hours just to sew a few patches, thought it would take 30 minutes.) The way you have lots of little holes all together, I'd recommend using a few large patches that will cover many holes at a time. Looks like you'd still need at least 6 or 7 patches though (plus maybe a few glue on ones for the little random holes.) Be sure to put the patches themselves on the inside (otherwise it will look stupid from the outside and be even less weatherproof.) If you are patching more than one hole with a particular patch you may want sew up the perimeter of the patch, and then sew between a few of the holes to keep things together a bit more. Good Luck! _________________ 1979 Westfalia, 1975 BMW 2002, 1996 Mazda Miata, 1979 Jeep CJ5, 2006 325 XI Wagon, 2021 M240i (all manual transmission... as god intended.) |
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pioneer1 Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2008 Posts: 2069 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: |
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you may be better off just replacing the canvas.$300 seems like a chunk of $$ but the smell of mouse urine ,when the sun hits the canvas, could sour your camping experience _________________ "Always waiting for tomorrow ruined everything"
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MidWesty79 Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2011 Posts: 485 Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin, US
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:39 am Post subject: |
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pioneer1 wrote: |
you may be better off just replacing the canvas.$300 seems like a chunk of $$ but the smell of mouse urine ,when the sun hits the canvas, could sour your camping experience |
I would have suggested the same thing, but i recently bought a replacement top from BusDepot. The fit was HORRID. I bought the "cheap" $300 one, so perhaps had I dropped some extra cash it would have fit better, but I am seriously going to have to cut the brand new top and sew in fabric so the top can be stretched enough to fit. Perhaps I did something wrong, but the top isn't exactly rocket science and I don't think I did. I measured the circumference of the aluminum pinch rail on the bottom, and the circumference of the bottom of the top... they don't match.
I couldn't recommend the $300 top... _________________ 1979 Westfalia, 1975 BMW 2002, 1996 Mazda Miata, 1979 Jeep CJ5, 2006 325 XI Wagon, 2021 M240i (all manual transmission... as god intended.) |
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ccpalmer Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2006 Posts: 3850 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: |
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pioneer1 wrote: |
but the smell of mouse urine ,when the sun hits the canvas, could sour your camping experience |
A very good point. I'd just use marine silicone - I use it to patch holes in my jeans - works awesome. That stuff still remains ultra-flexible for at least 20 years even in the sun. _________________ '71 Westy |
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VWDruid Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2008 Posts: 1192 Location: Boca de Ratones FL
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Iron on canvas
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Pinetops Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 2987
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Either do that iron on method above or rock it with the extra 'air holes' until you get around to replacing it. Why waste hours of time working on it when it needs to be replaced anyway? Spend those hours doing something else productive to your bus. |
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Daverham Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:02 am Post subject: |
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You can patch fabric from one side, without a partner, using a curved needle and doing a "baseball stitch". I've fixed a couple rips in my headliner this way.
Curved needles are available anywhere regular sewing stuff is available.
Looks like you can do it with a straight needle to, I guess.
There are products at pet stores that supposedly catalyze urine. Look for "Nature's Miracle" - so far so good with dog and cat pee. Good luck with the mouse stuff! |
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kitcarson Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2010 Posts: 56 Location: Eastern Idaho
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Great answers from everyone. I did get a gallon of that Natures Mircle stuff and it really does work well. I would recommend it. Expensive for a gallon, but works well.
The stitching thing will be a chore, whether sewing, gluing, ironing or whatever, it will be a long process. But like mentioned if the top isnt just right it increases the headache at installation. Not to mention the re-screwing and attaching to the bus again. That looks a bit complicated too. Sewing looks easier to me.......
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Kirk Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2003 Posts: 5487 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I dont think I would repair it either. Leave it for later and replace the whole thing. Enjoy the extra breeze. _________________ MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN
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WestyMan1971 Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2008 Posts: 682 Location: The Granite State
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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stuco wrote: |
Either do that iron on method above or rock it with the extra 'air holes' until you get around to replacing it. Why waste hours of time working on it when it needs to be replaced anyway? Spend those hours doing something else productive to your bus. |
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At least it doesn't look like this:
Even in that condition, it's low on the bus priority list. _________________ Visit the Vintage Volkswagen Parts & Tech Wiki today!
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