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thext94 Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 1003 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: Thext94's '67 Baja |
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I never really started a build thread on my baja because it wasn't much of a build. More like a restore i guess...but here goes!
This is my first VW, but my dad has had 3 or 4 since he was a kid. I got it in February of this year. Looked like this when I picked it up
Did some cleaning up on the inside and outside. Then made a big trip to Moore Parts. Got two new suspension seats, 4-point harnesses, new shift bushing, and other miscellaneous parts. Also picked up centerlines for the rear to match the front
Installing carpet, seats, and harnesses
Then we took it our for the first trip, an 80 mile poker run on St.Patrick's day in Parker, AZ.
It ran great and didn't have any problems.
Brought it home for more upgrades. New BFG KM2's, bilstein front shocks, some painting and polishing
also made a mount to hold the flag down
Then recently got a roof rack and light bar made, and this is how it looks now
Hopefully more upgrades to come soon
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larryvance66 Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2009 Posts: 731 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Looking sweet, Dude! Where did that roof rack come from?I want something like that for my Baja. Also those flat back fenders. Do you know where I can get a set? _________________ I got a Volkswagen for my wife....Best trade I ever made! |
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Mad_Scientist Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2010 Posts: 56 Location: Grand Junction CO
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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nice bug. are you running the long rear tortion bars and what size are those tires? I like the KM2s. running them on my partners Bronco. |
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thext94 Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 1003 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Looking sweet, Dude! Where did that roof rack come from?I want something like that for my Baja. Also those flat back fenders. Do you know where I can get a set? |
Thanks man! I had the roof rack made by my neighbor up in Parker, AZ. I can send some more detailed pics if you want one made like it. It mounts to the cage inside and is also removable. As for the fenders they were from the PO, but they look to me like heavy-duty fiberglass rears trimmed back. You can tell that they have been trimmed from the edge when looking close-up. Wish i could help yo out more on that, let me know if you have any more questions
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nice bug. are you running the long rear tortion bars and what size are those tires? I like the KM2s. running them on my partners Bronco.
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By torsion bars do you mean the leafs inside the rear tube? If so i'm not sure what they are, but the back end if pretty soft. Also the tube doesn't extend out past the tire like some do. They're capped off
As for the tires, they're 31 x 10.5's. I love them so far
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qckdrw777 Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2010 Posts: 69
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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thext94 wrote: |
By torsion bars do you mean the leafs inside the rear tube? If so i'm not sure what they are, but the back end if pretty soft. Also the tube doesn't extend out past the tire like some do. They're capped off
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'67 is still a swing axle, which is why the torsion housing is "capped off." IRS in later model Bugs "sticks out." _________________ 1967 Baja Owner |
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STOICH Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 1100 Location: Fallbrook
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thext94 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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'67 is still a swing axle, which is why the torsion housing is "capped off." IRS in later model Bugs "sticks out."
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ohh gotcha. makes sense!
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You might consider adding a little extra strength here...awesome bug by the way!
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haha yeah i had a post awhile back about that...some people said it wasn't a huge deal so i guess i forgot about it but i recently got access to a welder and i've been learning so that might be a good first job. do you think a weld would provide enough strength? thanks!
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STOICH Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 1100 Location: Fallbrook
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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thext94 wrote: |
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'67 is still a swing axle, which is why the torsion housing is "capped off." IRS in later model Bugs "sticks out."
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ohh gotcha. makes sense!
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You might consider adding a little extra strength here...awesome bug by the way!
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haha yeah i had a post awhile back about that...some people said it wasn't a huge deal so i guess i forgot about it but i recently got access to a welder and i've been learning so that might be a good first job. do you think a weld would provide enough strength? thanks!
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I would probably just weld it up tight... If it wasn't providing some sort of support, my guess is it wouldn't have broken, know what I mean? With that broken, it *may* be allowing some other area to fatigue now... don't know, just looks like an easy fix that could go a long way! _________________ My classifieds
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thext94 Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 1003 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:03 am Post subject: |
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STOICH wrote: |
thext94 wrote: |
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'67 is still a swing axle, which is why the torsion housing is "capped off." IRS in later model Bugs "sticks out."
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ohh gotcha. makes sense!
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You might consider adding a little extra strength here...awesome bug by the way!
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haha yeah i had a post awhile back about that...some people said it wasn't a huge deal so i guess i forgot about it but i recently got access to a welder and i've been learning so that might be a good first job. do you think a weld would provide enough strength? thanks!
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I would probably just weld it up tight... If it wasn't providing some sort of support, my guess is it wouldn't have broken, know what I mean? With that broken, it *may* be allowing some other area to fatigue now... don't know, just looks like an easy fix that could go a long way! |
yeah thats a good point. the last thing i need is something more expensive breaking on this thing! now to convince my dad to let me bring it home for the repair...
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XLR8 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2010 Posts: 437 Location: ulverstone, Tasmania, AUS
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:22 am Post subject: |
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so not all IRS's had them big long bars sticking into the wheel well then?
wow you do learn something every day...bugger for me as that is my tire limiting factor. _________________ "But that parts not user serviceable!"
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joescoolcustoms Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 9054 Location: West By God Virginia
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:13 am Post subject: |
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so not all IRS's had them big long bars sticking into the wheel well then?
wow you do learn something every day...bugger for me as that is my tire limiting factor. |
All Factory IRS's did have the long torsion bars sticking out like yours. This is a swing axle that has be converted to IRS and the short torsion bars were used and the swing axle spring plates were cut/drilled to make it the same length as a IRS spring plate.
Common modification to give more tire clearance.
Sweet Baja BTW! _________________ Bad News Racing 2018 NORRA 1000 3rd in Class
Best Day Ever Racing 2022 NORRA 1000 2nd in Class and first All Female team to complete the race
Everyone is gifted. Some just do not open the package.
Looks like it was painted with a live chicken,polished with a brick and buffed with a pine cone |
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Lotrat Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2007 Posts: 2528 Location: Vista, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Long Bar:
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thext94 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: |
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If your baja came stock IRS then you still have the option of cutting the tube and getting shorter torsions though, right? It would provide more tire clearance
Tyler |
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joescoolcustoms Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:58 am Post subject: |
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thext94 wrote: |
If your baja came stock IRS then you still have the option of cutting the tube and getting shorter torsions though, right? It would provide more tire clearance
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Cutting the tube? If you are referring to the tube that sticks out of the spring plate, no. Do not cut that tube, the outside end has the splines that the torsion bar goes into. It the tube is cut, there will not be anything for the torsion bar to engage.
Either a swing axle spring plate will have to be cut off and drilled (flat end, not round end) or new aftermarket spring plates are available for a IRS with short torsion bars. _________________ Bad News Racing 2018 NORRA 1000 3rd in Class
Best Day Ever Racing 2022 NORRA 1000 2nd in Class and first All Female team to complete the race
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Lotrat Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: |
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The "tube" sticking out is part of the spring plate. The it sticks out to accommodate the longer torsion bar that's inside.
Short bars, closed spring plate covers, short bar spring plates (either cut for IRS or custom part), and a new outer bushing are needed to do the conversion. |
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thext94 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Yeah i was referring more to converting it with shorter torsions and everything, if anyone had a problem with tire clearance, like XLR8 |
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thesatelliteguy Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2007 Posts: 1515 Location: Santa Rosa CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:15 am Post subject: |
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do you have any pics of the interior? particularly the rear. I wanted to see you cage a little better. _________________ Toyotas are so bumpy it makes me sick, literally.
My build Page http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=383878 |
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thext94 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:38 am Post subject: |
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do you have any pics of the interior? particularly the rear. I wanted to see you cage a little better.
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Yeah definitely. The rear area is a 22(ish) gallon tank instead of seats, and i covered it with a sheet of plywood and then carpeted it. Also have the battery back there with a cut-off switch. As for the cage, it isn't exactly SCORE legal, but i feel i would be pretty safe in a rollover. Rancho shocks mounted to the cage
cross bar in the back with dust lights on it
one of the side bars and the plywood zip-tied to it
If you need any more pics let me know so i can get them when i'm up there this weekend
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carlos_magnum Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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That's a sweet bug. Where did you get the roof rack? |
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thesatelliteguy Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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thext94 wrote: |
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Looking sweet, Dude! Where did that roof rack come from?I want something like that for my Baja. |
Thanks man! I had the roof rack made by my neighbor up in Parker, AZ. I can send some more detailed pics if you want one made like it. It mounts to the cage inside and is also removable. |
_________________ Toyotas are so bumpy it makes me sick, literally.
My build Page http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=383878 |
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