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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Axles are out. Next: Plug fuel lines, detach shifter linkage.

Engine could quite possibly come out this weekend
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Tony,
I am going to read thru your thread when I have more time. I just picked up a 78 CE, complete but no engine. I have one for it, ready to go but I will be waiting till after Winter to start on it. Have to work on some title issues first.
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Something I am curious about the seat upholstery options on these. Mine has cloth inserts with vinyl sides.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Good score! Dusty, lol.

Yes, the interior had vinyl sides and corduroy inserts. In many of my recent pictures, you can see I've swapped out my front seats. I'll go back to the originals when I have time to redo them and do them right.

Good luck with that Champagne, man. I'd love to see a thread started on it when you get more progress.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so when can i fly in and help you get all this done in one day? Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does saving money count as working on your bus? It seems like that's all I've been doing lately.

Well in Oklahoma it's 12 degrees one weekend and 60 the next. So we waited it out and decided to take advantage when it was nice.
My buddies Adam, David, and Dewayne came over for a visit. My particular 'club' here in Tulsa is a great bunch of dudes. 3 out of the 4 of us had never pulled a type 4 engine before, and no one had pulled a type 4 out of a car that a type 4 actually belonged to. Enough chatter, time for business:


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Next up: nosecone seals, and a ton of parts and tins to the parts washer.

After that: Hone cylinders, piston rings, seal kit.

My bus looks really unusual without a bumper, and sitting so high.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am so gonna have to make a trip up there sometime. I just hope you put your bus back together and drive it! Don't make this its final resting spot.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bout time you got back to work....


Get er dun! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries, I'm determined to bring this thing back.

After seeing how much oil was getting past the rings, I think I know why it wasn't doing so well.

I'll snap pics before I clean up to take to the parts washer. Good god.

Good news is, from what I can tell, the seats have NOT been mercilessly pounded into the heads on any combustion chamber. But whether or not they are cracked anywhere remains to be seen.

No more news until the parts washing and transmission seals, I'm afraid. Although you never know I might surprise you with something. Twisted Evil

Thanks for the motivation guys.

I recently lost my father to heart failure, and it's been hard to keep going. But my bus buddies here in town are great for pushing you when you need it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeez, sorry to hear that man. Sad
Keep at it! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exclamation ouch ! Thats the worst...sorry to hear that man. Sad Keep your spirits up. Smile you got this!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a box of nitrile gloves to keep those hands clean and also help protect them a bit. 7 mil thickness gives good tactile performance ( Very Happy ) and tear protection.

Works wonders with your partner too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol!

Thanks for the tips guys.

I just scheduled a drop off for my shit at Dead End VW on Saturday. A little trans love is all a guy can ask for Wink

Ain't no brakes on this progress train!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for you man. While that motor and such is out, now is a good time to get in there and check your often neglegted parts. Filler neck, fuel sender, clean up the engine bay, all that important detail stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep! I'm thinking of painting the engine compartment a tan/beige to match the lightest of the original stripes. I'm a huge sucker for originality, but I can make that sacrifice.

I need new CV boots, new fuel evap hose throughout the engine compartment, my rear side markers are all fucky, I need a battery tray fixed, I'll lube my heater cables, adjust my parking brake, I'll definitely grab a new filler neck, too. When the necessities are taken care of, I want to install some lighting back there too. Maybe just 1 LED rope, neatly tucked away around the edges of the engine compartment ceiling.

Oh I forgot! I bought new shoes and pads for the brakes too!

Boy all this shit is going to be easy without a type 4 mystery engine weighing it down and taking up all the room.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool! I have no job these days, if you needed a hand or two....maybe when youve got all your engine parts together? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well hell yeah man. Can you drive down? It's only a 29 hour drive LOL.

I'd like some assistance with the CV's, but my Oil Capital Air Cooled buddies have my back on the rebuild. I will post photos of the heads, P&C, and other stuff later on.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i flew down and stayed for two or three days, you could be back on the road in a week from now....unlike your buddies, i have rebuilt a t4 motor, and am very familiar with them. Wink

In the mean time, look up bug me videos. Volume 8.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following images are rated FD for being f*cking disgusting. lol
Took a wire brush and a car windshield ice scraper to the Pistons and Cylinders.
The fins were so clogged with dirt and grease and oil that was getting past the rings. All the rings were loosey goosey. All the pistons had lots of carbon buildup and scorched edges. The cylinders are missing fins in a few places.
Heads, pistons, cylinders, and transmission all go away to the shop today for cleaning, seals, etc. I'll be sure to post pictures of the Heads before I turn them in. Funny thing about the heads, the rockers on the 1&2 head had a solid spacer, and the rockers on the 3&4 head had a spring spacer.
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Can anyone tell me what that clip thing is called, at the bottom of this picture? ^^^^ I only found 5...and it seems like I should have 8.
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I'm saving the tin for another day. Will probably just clean them up myself and repaint.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there's your problem, yuk!

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Can anyone tell me what that clip thing is called, at the bottom of this picture? ^^^^ I only found 5...and it seems like I should have 8.

Those are called wrist pin retainers or wrist pin clips, and yes you need 8.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check each piston for the rest of them...Smile
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