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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Converting from early style oil cooler to later style.. Reply with quote

I'm converting my 1970 early style oil cooler to the later 1971 and on style. And the mount that sits on the block dosen't fit! the mounting threads on the new mount are to big for the holes on the block. Does this happen to everyone? Sad what do I need to do?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, it happens to anyone who makes this conversion on old SP blocks.

You'll need to drill the two holes out and it would probably be best to get an M6 to M8 "step stud" to replace the M6 stud on the block.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, tell me more about this step stud? and maybe a link?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and the kit i bought doesnt have any nuts!?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a link to the kit you bought so we know what parts you have?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Step studs look like this - this one comes in the engine case hardware kits, but this one is only just barely long enough - it's bit short for what you need, I think this one is intended to go the other way around, mounting an early cooler on a later block since the kits are for new engine blocks which come with M8 threads.

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these are typical of what you see in a decently equipped hardware store's metric automotive stud drawer:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe these are the correct ones:

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VHD%2DN14%2D4521
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah that's the same one - M6 to M8, 23mm overall length. However, CIP is out of them.
Airhead has them http://www.airheadparts.com/vintage-vw-parts/clips...te-n144521 -

But I'd try a local hardware store first.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mamotorworks.com/acvw?frame=1.4952 thats what I have, how do i take the stud out of the block?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.mamotorworks.com/acvw?frame=1.4952 thats what I have, how do i take the stud out of the block?


Double nut if you have room, otherwise the ol vicegrips will do it. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.mamotorworks.com/acvw?frame=1.4952 thats what I have, how do i take the stud out of the block?


Stay away from MidAmerica. They are nothing but junk peddlers regardless of their fluff that they're "VW enthusiasts". Just review the MAM feedback thread in the Buyer/Seller forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.mamotorworks.com/acvw?frame=1.4952 thats what I have, how do i take the stud out of the block?


Stay away from MidAmerica. They are nothing but junk peddlers regardless of their fluff that they're "VW enthusiasts". Just review the MAM feedback thread in the Buyer/Seller forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ace Hardware by me definitely carries those 6mm x 8mm step studs, saw them last week.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ace Hardware by me definitely carries those 6mm x 8mm step studs, saw them last week.


Good to know, I would have never thought they would carry an odd item like that. Thanks Cusser.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Ace is really good about having oddball fasteners. I'm glad Cusser mentioned that.
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Stay away from MidAmerica. They are nothing but junk peddlers regardless of their fluff that they're "VW enthusiasts". Just review the MAM feedback thread in the Buyer/Seller forum.
This i have learned, it took one month to get the stupid fan shroud. Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i changed mine over i just drilled out the hole on the left side so the stud would hit and then used the bolt that help the old cooler in place. so far it has worked just fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:28 am    Post subject: question Reply with quote

I have the same issue I have a molested motor. it's a b6 code but it's converted dual port and it HAD a blocked of atf oil pump. But the question I have is i'm rebuilding it for my 73 thing with gas heat and I was going to replace the fan shroud since I don't need heat. Would I be better off just replacing the shroud with a 36hp pre 71. or should I buy the 71 and up 36hp shroud and convert the oil cooler to a new style. Thanks for your advice
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glutamodo wrote:
Step studs look like this -

these are typical of what you see in a decently equipped hardware store's metric automotive stud drawer:

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Looks like hardware supplied by Hillman, based on the packaging/labeling. Calling local hardware stores, especially the independent Mom and Pop establishments, and seeing which use Hillman as a supplier for their fasteners should yield you a decent selection of metric hardware, if they stock that line.
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