Oval steering box

srj1200 · Samba Member Joined: September 13, 2007 Posts: 74

Does anyone rebuild these? or know where to get a rebuilt one? mine is leaking fluid and i am in the middle of a pan off resto. Its for a 56 oval

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new pan halves
pan sandblasted and powdercoated
custom 4"narrowed front beam adjustable, powdercoated
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tasb · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject:

Have you packed it with grease instead of gear oil?

greenoval · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:46 am Post subject:

I got a rebuilt one from BFY. Price seemed reasonable. Haven't installed it yet so I can't tell you how they did.

baked beetle · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:42 am Post subject:

I have a couple old 50's steering boxes that I've rebuilt my self. I glass bead blasted them and cleaned all the internals out and re0packed with grease. They both look amazing now and work as good as before.

Splitdog · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject:

Pure grease will end up 'falling away' from the used surfaces and piling up directly next to it. You need to mix in a bit of STP oil treatment to get it to stay liquid enough. It will not leak from the bottom seal. See Wolfgang Parts for description. That is how they do thier steering boxes.
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baked beetle · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject:

ok that makes sense. I will pull them apart and add some. Thanks for the tip

Vanapplebomb · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:19 am Post subject:

Where can you get new seals for these boxes? I'm sure they are pretty generic. Any one know of the dimensions off hand?
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Vanapplebomb · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:52 pm Post subject:

Does 40x28x7mm sound right for the pit arm shaft? 24x16x7mm for the input shaft?
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Center Pin · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:07 pm Post subject:

I have the following scribbled down as the seals...

28x40x07 Type: ADL Mat: NBR

and

6405 CR 16x24x7 HMS4 R Chicago Rawhide

Schwing · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:32 pm Post subject:

LT has you covered on seals.
I did this myself last year and its not a bad job.

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Vanapplebomb · Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:27 pm Post subject:

Another seal question...

I picked up an old steering box for a rebuild core. I noticed that there was nothing covering this worm shaft bearing. Seems like oil would just take a trip through the bearing and leak out. Is there supposed to be a press in cap or something to cover the hole in the box?

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66brm · Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:17 pm Post subject:

Yeah there's normally a plug in there, looks very like a core plug that the wasser cooled guys use to hold their coolant in
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Vanapplebomb · Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject:

Any pictures?

What is it made out of? plastic, rubber, or metal?
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66brm · Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:31 pm Post subject:

Metal, we call them welsh plugs here not sure what you guys call them
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Vanapplebomb · Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:41 pm Post subject:

Is it somewhat common for these plugs to fall out over time, or must removal be intentional?
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60ragtop · Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:40 am Post subject:

yes if it is missing it was probably taken out.
You should be able to go to local flaps and buy a freeze plug that will fit
or this is is available Wink

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Vanapplebomb · Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:22 pm Post subject:

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Thanks for the pictures.

When you install the plug, do you just press it in, or do you need to apply some sort of sealer to the contact surfaces?
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Trevor P · Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:21 pm Post subject:

Just press it in. I would add some locitite 518 or the like for insurance.
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Vanapplebomb · Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:59 pm Post subject:

Here is another question: Is the rubber gasket between the cover and box reusable?
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Trevor P · Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:05 am Post subject:

It's not rubber, it is a paper gasket. If you are careful removing it you can reuse it. If is gets damaged it's easily replicated with some gasket material.
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